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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Vash on Fri Jan 9th at 10:57pm 2004


? posted by Mr.Ben

It's not the end of the world.

*giant meteor sets crash course for earth*

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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Wild Card on Fri Jan 9th at 11:11pm 2004


I dont get steam anyways. I mean, I dont even use it but I dont see the point of it. Make everybody do a 650meg download and change the whole system...

And I agree with the valve is becomming microsoft comment. Aparently public interest isnt their main concern anymore...

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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sat Jan 10th at 12:06am 2004


Steam is going to be mandatory and part of Half-Life 2, whether you like it or not. It's way too late to go back for Valve, they've committed way too many resources to Steam already (all the servers, the network, etc.) Might as well convert now and get used to it.

I have to say, I'm enjoying Steam. The "point" is to automatically deliver mods and patches without you having to end up waiting in Fileplanet for a few hours or whatever. They're really designing for the public interest.

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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jan 10th at 12:10am 2004


? posted by Vash
? posted by Mr.Ben

It's not the end of the world.

*giant meteor sets crash course for earth*

If steam was still up they could send robots controlled by Half-life players to stop it!

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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Vash on Sat Jan 10th at 2:50am 2004


Looks like its up to use Myrk.

To the batcave.

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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by fraggard on Sat Jan 10th at 3:06am 2004


? posted by Campaignjunkie

Steam is going to be mandatory and part of Half-Life 2, whether you like it or not. It's way too late to go back for Valve, they've committed way too many resources to Steam already (all the servers, the network, etc.) Might as well convert now and get used to it.

Most people wouldn't mind Steam so much if it would stop bloody updating itself all the time.

I suppose most non broadband people could somehow manage to get the whole 700+MB download. But as soon as you install it, it starts to update itself. Don't see the point in it myself... How tough can it be to host an "updated" version for download?





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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Wild Card on Sat Jan 10th at 3:08am 2004


Its cause the lamers want to make us wait in line at Fileplanet and Gamespy and 3D downloads. By the way, anybody find that a 5 minute line in 3D downloads lasts over an hour for some reason? [addsig]



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Vash on Sat Jan 10th at 3:22am 2004


Do what I always do when theres a line for File Planet...Copy the file name [steam_install.exe] and google it. You'll be surprised how many index folders you'll get with the file...No lines . [addsig]



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Jinx on Sat Jan 10th at 7:44am 2004


or you can look for it on http://www.filemirrors.com of course.

we used to use 3dDownloads for the Action HL Map Depot but half the time people couldn't even get the maps. Hell, the little window won't even refresh for me so I can't even wait in line. I had to use my ftp access to download the maps so I could upload them to the new webhost

Seems to me that whether it's Steam or a patch it's still the same bandwidth. If Valve wants to save us the trouble of fileplanet they could just host the patches themselves at the same bandwidth cost as steam- less in fact since other places would mirror it for them. Clearly they want us to be totally their bitches, though.





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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by fishy on Sat Jan 10th at 8:13am 2004


but on the other hand.

instead of waiting in queues for hours on end once every few months when a big feck-off patch is ready, we now get lots of little fixes that are automatically installed one at a time as they are made ready, and in only a few seconds. so unless valve need to make some major changes to steam, i don't really see us having to go through any more 600meg+ downloads again

here's hoping anyway





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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jan 10th at 10:43pm 2004


That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Sim on Sun Jan 11th at 10:22am 2004


I've got Steam but I use WON because my fav servers are on it [addsig]



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th at 5:03pm 2004


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That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.


Speaking of which, I really hope they're capable of supporting all the new players that'll come with those games.




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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Forceflow on Sun Jan 11th at 5:38pm 2004


? posted by Alien_Sniper
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That's right, Mustang ... when you run a system where thousands of gamers all over the world are depending on (especially when CS:CZ or HL2 are going to be released ... notice the sarcasm.) you just can't run this without backup generators or anything.


Speaking of which, I really hope they're capable of supporting all the new players that'll come with those games.

If they're not capable of supporting steam Gamers now (which is still not the amount of people that played on WON), it sure doesn't look like it.





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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th at 5:56pm 2004


True. I presume they'll have a bunch more servers at that point, but it probably won't be near enough. It's a matter of waiting (and possibly lots more waiting) and seeing I guess.



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by matt on Sun Jan 11th at 6:09pm 2004


What about all the nice new graphics in HL2? That'll mena realistically your going to need a very fast broadband connection to play the next wave of games online. (Doom 3 December the 1st!) probably like 1Mbit+ [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th at 6:19pm 2004


All the rendering is done client-side...



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sun Jan 11th at 6:41pm 2004


? posted by Alien_Sniper
All the rendering is done client-side...

Yep!

Maybe the AI and the physics might be more complicated though and force more data to be sent. But Steam is already a broadband platform, which means HL2 will be. Sorry.

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Jan 11th at 6:48pm 2004


Not 1mbit+ though.



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Re: Steam hacked and down?
Posted by matt on Sun Jan 11th at 6:50pm 2004


Some ppl I knew played doom online (yes, the origional!) because they didn't have broadband! But I think I'de have BB by the time I decide to start playing games online.

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