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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by half-dude on Sun Apr 27th at 12:18am 2008


Hey all, (yes it's me, I know I don't come here anymore 6.6)

I'll just cut to the chase, I really am not sure about the whole concept they have going with the Citidel in HL2: Episode 1 and 2. I have some ideas.. but I'm not sure if they're right or not, so I'd like to hear what you think.

From what I understand, basically, the citidel's core is what we try to stablize in Episode 1. Now, I'm not even sure at this point, is this the Dark Energy Reactor? Or was that what was at the top of the citidel? The reason I'm so confused there is because it seemed like the device at the top was only like a focusing device for the portal... I dunno.

Anyway, so I understand that the combine (I guess) had a failsafe plan that if the citidel was compromised they'd send out a distress signal to the homeworld and try to open another super portal. (though I dont see why they can't just open on from their homeworld) Normally this would make sense, but given the situation it seems kind of wierd. For one, I mean, wasn't all that mechinery at the top needed to open a portal? (evidently since the portal at the end of HL2 closed when you destroyed the ..whatever it is. So if that mechinery at the top was needed to open portals, how the heck were they able to open a portal and send the transmission at the end of episode 1? I mean the whole top of the thing was blown off! But lets say that the stuff at the top WASN'T needed, the powersource was melting down, how could it even be working at all???

Then one last thing, the super portal in episode 2. I can understand that a transmission was sent eaither by soldiers inside or a automated computer sequence, but how were they able control that beam of "raw discharge of the meltdown" into making a portal? I mean there's no mechinery or anything to control the flow of discharge into doing such a thing? ... Could you guys please ease my mind on all this? : /

This isn't meant to dis HL, it's the most awesome series ever, I just want to understand.




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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Sun Apr 27th at 12:40am 2008


Well, if you have playin the games and where listening, than you should know whats going on, but if not, than this information is not hard to find out <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">.

Half-life 2, EP1, EP2

Also...

? quoting half-dude
This isn't meant to dis HL, it's the most awesome series ever

hmmmm... :P






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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 27th at 1:10am 2008


The Dark Energy Reactor is the power source of the teleporter at the top of the Citadel. That teleporter is not used for local teleportation (which is what humanity has) but for inter-universe transportation, allowing a link between Earth and the Combine homeworld and their limitless reinforcements. When you blow it up at the end of HL2 you sever Earth's Combine forces from the rest of their military. Basically once the Combine conquered Earth they pulled back the bulk of the troops and left a smaller occupation force, the core of which is trans-human troops. With communication lost and no chance of reinforcement the Earth Combine are in trouble.

In EP1 the main power core of the Citadel is set to explode, which at first is thought as just an evil move to flatten City 17 as some sort of pseudo-MAD situation. However when you are going to buy time to evacuate the city you find the transmission packet. The packet is to be sent out when the core explodes. The exploding core would act as a recreation of the resonance cascade from HL1, causing portal storms worldwide. This would give the packet a chance to be sent out and reach its destination, the Combine homeworld. I don't exactly remember the exact details but the jist of it is: the packet is sent out, distress call sent, sustainable portal opened, bulk of Combine forces come through, humanity wiped out.

EP2 is getting the packet data to the rocket so that they can fire it up there and close the portal before additional forces can arrive.

Notes:
-Obviously the Combine can't open a portal from their homeworld into Earth, the whole freaking point of HL1 was that without the resonance cascade the Combine has no way of reaching Earth.
-I think the transmission and the resulting swirly beam was basically an anchor point and a small opening that the Combine on the other side could focus on, control, and expand. It wasn't an instantly viable portal.
-All that machinery at the top of the Citadel was required to have controllable, repeatable, and reliable teleportation. Obviously there's other ways of making portals, they are just a whole lot messier (HL1's resonance cascade, Citadel core destroyed)





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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by half-dude on Sun Apr 27th at 8:35am 2008


You see? It's people like you here that are the reason I never come on these forums. There was no reason for you to sound like such a dick, that was really uncalled for. 9.9


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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 27th at 9:03am 2008


half-dude ... what are you talking about? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/wtf.gif">


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Sun Apr 27th at 10:13am 2008


What the hell, are you joking? Nobody is being a dick, I don't even know who you are referring to.





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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by reaper47 on Sun Apr 27th at 11:39am 2008


Try this: http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/

It's apparently pretty darn accurate!






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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Apr 27th at 11:36pm 2008


sigh, I typed all those words for nothing! *shakes fist*



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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by half-dude on Sun Apr 27th at 11:46pm 2008


For some reason the site didn't tell who I was replying to.. even though I pushed reply. I was referring to aaron_da_killa, his responce we alot more hostile and insulting then it needed to be.


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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Sun Apr 27th at 11:56pm 2008


Oh, thats strange. I didn't mean to sound like that, hey buddy, I got you those links for your reading and I accidentally navigated to another web page, so I had to retype my whole post again, than I stuffed up the bbcode so I had to fix it up <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_cry.gif">.





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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Crono on Mon Apr 28th at 12:02am 2008


We should change your screen name to sensitive-dude. :P

Aaron wasn't even remotely breaking your balls and you retaliated his effort to help you by calling him a dick ... smooth.

Half-Dude, like always: calm down and relax. No one here was hostile or insulted you in any manner.



Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Mon Apr 28th at 1:01am 2008


Crono is right.

I guess it is easy to confuse peoples mood or tone when reading forums, this is why I think that emoticons are useful. Maybe if I added a few of those "poking out tongues" emoticons in my first post, you would think differently.






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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Gwil on Mon Apr 28th at 11:57am 2008


I guess this is my cue to come in and light some scented candles and play whale songs.

+1 for Yak though, that's a great precis of the events. You should get a job in copy writing.




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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Snarkmaster on Mon Apr 28th at 3:48pm 2008


sarcasm/[ No one here was hostile or insulting...except me!!! HOO HOO HA HA HA HA!!!!! I'm your worst nightmare!!! ]sarcasm


Anyone who is pregnant, has been pregnant, could ever become pregnant, or who could ever impregnate others should not read this.
I told you not to read that.



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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by omegaslayer on Mon Apr 28th at 5:15pm 2008


Pay no heed arron, half dude comes here looking for wood to burn his fire a lot of the time.





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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Apr 29th at 1:51am 2008


Yeah, this guy seems a bit strange.

? quoting half-life dude's profile
I also have some problems here at the pit so just bare with me.


Whats that all about :S?






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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by half-dude on Tue Apr 29th at 3:52am 2008


? quoting Crono
We should change your screen name to sensitive-dude.

Maybe >.>

Message submitted 1 minutes after original post:

? quoting aaron_da_killa
I guess it is easy to confuse peoples mood or tone when reading forums, this is why I think that emoticons are useful.

Probably, the way it sounded to me sounded VERY belittling.

"if you'd even PLAYED half-life..." notice the emphesis on the PLAYED.. thats how it sounded.




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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Apr 29th at 4:51am 2008


Yeah well, I didn't intend that. If I wanted it to sound like that, than I would have emphasized that word, but I didn't image.

Anyway, do you understand the half-life story better? Yak wrote up some pretty important information there and reaper47 posted a link to a great website that is full of interesting information about the half-life story. You should go through that stuff if you haven't already.






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Re: Ok I'm not sure if I really understand
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Apr 29th at 5:55am 2008


Slightly unrelated, but the most recent realization I've had about the HL universe is what Gargantuas are. They are quite obviously synths just like gunships and striders, and it only took like three years after HL2 was released for me to notice. I just love how the stories all work together yet require some thought as to how. Revealing it straight up ruins all the fun, and it also makes me think that anybody who says HL2 relates in no way to HL1 is a complete imbecile.





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Posted by reaper47 on Tue Apr 29th at 9:17am 2008


? quote:
anybody who says HL2 relates in no way to HL1 is a complete imbecile.


That might be among the few things I never heard being mentioned about HL.

I almost found the ties a little too obvious. Like, what a surprise, BARNEY the security guard from Black Mesa is right with you in an obscure, Eastern European city. Just with DR KLEINER and ELI VANCE and everyone in the street is wearing lambda(R)-signs because the lambda(R) sector in Black Mesa was so cool and they all worship Gordon Freeman and know every detail about him like some kind of post-apocalyptic celebrity.

In HL1 you were some random dude who happened to have the only hazard suit. In HL2 you are a prophetic demi-god. That always bothered me about the sequel.







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