Donnie Darko
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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cash Car Star on Sun Feb 8th at 10:25pm 2004


And also people who like watching Ashton Kutcher pretend to be an actor.

From what I've seen, that movie's headed straight to the MST3K pile.





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 8th at 10:29pm 2004


? posted by Cash Car Star

And also people who like watching Ashton Kutcher pretend to be an actor.

From what I've seen, that movie's headed straight to the MST3K pile.

i hate it when i have to do a google search just to decipher comments

although Ashton Kutcher was a major portion of the movie, and i am not a fan of him, his being there didn't retract from my opinion of the movie.

if you watched it, you musta like it enuff to do so, if you haven't seen it yet, but only previews, then your opinion is flawed. either way, its not really that bad.

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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sun Feb 8th at 10:34pm 2004


I generaly hate time travel moveis because they always ignore the real paradoxical impossibility of changing the past, and that's assuming going back in time was possible, which it isn't. not even theoreticaly. [addsig]



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 8th at 10:44pm 2004


? posted by Tracer Bullet
I generaly hate time travel moveis because they always ignore the real paradoxical impossibility of changing the past, and that's assuming going back in time was possible, which it isn't. not even theoreticaly.

at this point, time travel is more a belief than a reality (obviously) but i personally believe it will be discovered as possible someday.

i also believe that altering the past is impossible, cause were it, the moment you conceived its possibility, it would have become reality.

lastly, i believe ALL events, from the beginning of time to the end have already occurred, they are set in stone, its just we haven't caught up to the future ones yet.

strange beliefs for sure, but they are mine none the less... i love almost all time travel films, but my best is Bill and Ted's excellent adventure, the concept of placing the keys behind something in the past, but conceived in the future, for use in the present.. was GREAT

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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Leperous on Sun Feb 8th at 11:23pm 2004


? posted by Tracer Bullet
that's assuming going back in time was possible, which it isn't. not even theoreticaly.

Uh... show me a theory/decent hypothesis that says it's not possible?

Anyway, does anyone know the name of the song? Not Mad World, but the scary sounding instrumental.





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Skeletor on Mon Feb 9th at 12:07am 2004


Hmm, don't know which one you're talking about, but my best guess would be "Liquid Spear Waltz"?

Maybe "Manipulated Living" or "Ave Maria"?

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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Loco on Mon Feb 9th at 2:13pm 2004


I watched Donnie Darko a few days ago, and thought it was a great film. I wasn't too sure about the whole time-travel stuff, but there was one point: (I'll put it in black in case its considered a spoiler) the rabbit is not affected by time and is able to do anything. Surely these are characteristics of the mind? Anyway, I enjoyed the film a lot. Need to see it again. And hes right too: fear and love are two completely unrelated and complicated things. [addsig]



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Leperous on Mon Feb 9th at 2:16pm 2004


[thoughts]How is the rabbit able to travel back in time if he's dead?! There is actually no time travel involved, it's just a bit of a silly film really that's doesn't make sense, but is a great one to watch nonetheless[/thoughts]



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cash Car Star on Mon Feb 9th at 6:46pm 2004


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? posted by Cash Car Star

And also people who like watching Ashton Kutcher pretend to be an actor.

From what I've seen, that movie's headed straight to the MST3K pile.

i hate it when i have to do a google search just to decipher comments

C'mon, I thought Ashton Kutcher was a recognizable enough name to make fun of w/o a link.

Seriously though man, if you haven't experienced the old school sci-fi film joy that is MST3K, then you my friend are just missing out COMPLETELY.

As for time travel, well if you believe that time doesn't exist, like I do, then it makes it rather hard to travel through. My theory is matter just is, and then it changes, there is no "time" to move through at all. I also like believing in free will cause it keeps me from getting the Heebie Jeebies so there being no such thing as time is good for that, cause you can't have predestination without time.





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Loco on Mon Feb 9th at 6:59pm 2004


As for time travel, my belief is that it cannot exist because of my belief in destiny and lack of free-will. Contradicts Cash Car Star's theory I'm afraid, but my theory is that our own apparent "free-will" and decisions coincide so well with our destiny that we hardly notice. [addsig]



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cash Car Star on Mon Feb 9th at 7:10pm 2004


How can you feel sorry without free will? Emotions become superfluous.



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Gollum on Mon Feb 9th at 7:15pm 2004


*must resist temptation to give a philosophy lesson*

Hnngggh.





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Loco on Tue Feb 10th at 4:07pm 2004


Emotions are the apparent "cause" of actions, and thus provide a reason for free-will, which doesn't actually exist. Life would be dull without the idea of free-will or emotions, but these are in turn defined by our characters and individual personalities, and we don't have a choice over those (much) - they are controlled by our environment and our upbringing. Thats my theory anyway. Its probably wrong, but what the hey. [addsig]



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Feb 10th at 7:52pm 2004


/me scratches buttocks..

i have no idea how this went from time to free-will

anyways, sometime later, as opposed to soon, we need to explore this more.

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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cassius on Tue Feb 10th at 11:52pm 2004


My good man Siddhartha said in the novel of the same name that every object is at once itself and everything else in the universe, because time is only an illusion.

To my knowledge, nothing is actually created or destroyed, different atoms take shape as various identities, all of which have limited lifetimes. I think this goes a step further: there is nothing that is really new, everything has existed from the beginning, but everything is just a different combination of essential elements and parts of reality.

Thus, over a long enough timeline, different elements of my (then decomposed) self will integrate into other things with other identities, then into others, then into others, over and over again, until I have become everything.

I'm not exactly clear as to why he said that time does not exist, however, but clearly some of you guys do, so I ask you why.





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Leperous on Wed Feb 11th at 1:22am 2004


? posted by Cassius

My good man Siddhartha said in the novel of the same name that every object is at once itself and everything else in the universe, because time is only an illusion.

How does he know every object is 'at once' (despite this seemingly not meaning anything to him) itself and everything in the Universe? I can see what he's saying, but it's a bit mongish/OTT to say there's only one object ever. What's so bad about having, say, 2?





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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cassius on Wed Feb 11th at 5:39am 2004


You can have a tree, which is one thing, one object, and when many trees come together you have a forest, which in turn becomes one thing. When you take that forest, and, say, some grassland, you have a countryside, a little more and you have a nation, add more and you have a continent, and this process of grouping repeats on until the universe can be defined through one thing (for Siddhartha, that one thing is Om).

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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Crono on Wed Feb 11th at 5:50am 2004


I remember that book.

Does everyone on the West Coast have to read that thing in HS?? [addsig]




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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Cassius on Wed Feb 11th at 6:02am 2004


No; I read it on my own in the seventh grade and am reading it again now.



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Re: Donnie Darko
Posted by Orpheus on Wed Feb 11th at 7:26am 2004


? posted by Cassius
No; I read it on my own in the seventh grade and am reading it again now.

cass, you can make texture AND read too will wonders never cease

/runs

personally i think reading is the best thing in life one can do for recreation.. i have read about a dozen books in th past 3 months alone.

since we have a whole new bunch of faces, we should dig out our have read lists again soon.. mine.. well mines so long that someone mentioned my having gone to the library and copying the whole sci-fi/fantasy list

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