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Posted by larchy on Thu Feb 19th at 6:27pm 2009

Any page you're thinking of in particular?

The forums do this when you make a post, but it requires the placing of anchors on the page that the redirect url can link to.



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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Feb 19th at 6:40pm 2009

larchy, the ranking system works perfectly for me! Very nice that abandoned maps are now hidden from the official list. smiley


Also, to make sure you don't have enough time to breathe, I think we should try and come up with a better way to update and maintain those "official map threads".

First, I think you should be sent to the most recent post rather than the first page of the thread. That would solve a lot of the initial confusion.

Then (and this is of no priority for now, just an idea), I think that the map-thread should re-start with every new release. For example a beta2 map should start with a changelog about what is new, then the feedback posts about the changes. Beta3, the same... For the final release, you should just use the comments (in fact, direct comments should be disabled for beta maps, I don't know if they are right now).

Now I have no idea of how to implement this elegantly, but I generally liked the system of the old-old Snarkpit, where you could have "thread chapters" for each release (sadly usability of that feature was not-so great and few people used it). The main flaw of that system was that people didn't recognize what chapter was the latest and just posted randomly. This could easily be solved by locking outdated ones (just keeping them as an archive).

I think that the map forum is still one of the most important features of this site, and would deserve some extra thought.


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Posted by Gwil on Thu Feb 19th at 6:46pm 2009

Arhar, the larch is a busy larch. I like this!

re: domain. Bleh, I haven't got anywhere yet - contact between me and Lep has dropped again. If it becomes too much of a headache to get it sorted we may just roll with the contingency plan of using snarkpit.net to redirect.



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Posted by larchy on Thu Feb 19th at 7:38pm 2009

I have thought a little bit about how to handle map versions reaper...

I was thinking that we could have tabs... like we have on the user control panel for instance... with the latest version displayed by default and older versions accessible via tabs. Could tab the forum discussion thread too.

I haven't fully thought that through though so not sure how practical it is or exactly how everything would be arranged... I mean... what content would be different between versions? Would a whole new set of screenshots be required for instance? Would older version dl links be removed? Bleh

I'd say that's a definite future thing to think about though as there is so much changed with v6 that I'm starting to get a little concerned with moving all the content over and don't want to complicate things any more than they already are 'cos my brains will melt.



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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Feb 19th at 8:19pm 2009

Quoting larchy
'cos my brains will melt.


Well, it seems you are human at last! smiley

I know this is quite a headache-topic, because it would require a few additional functions for managing forum threads.

I don't think you need a complete archive of old map versions (downloads, screenshots, etc.), if that is what you mean.

I just always liked to start a new thread for each version of a map (I often had 5 betas or so) and, at the same time, make sure that old threads are both locked and that it is clear that they are outdated.

Tabs sound like a nice idea for structuring. Where would you put them? It's hard for me to imagine. I think they would only serve as an archive (it's always nice to follow how feedback transformed the map over time). I don't think old versions have to be too prominent. Just one small option to look how the map has changed over time, only interesting for people who really look for that historical info.


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Posted by Riven on Sat Feb 21st at 7:32pm 2009

now on the new "send PM" page where you now can type the name of the user you want to send a pm to, there should be a (memberlist) link to I think to help look for members if you want to find members via the filter on that page.


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Posted by RedWood on Mon Feb 23rd at 9:48pm 2009

It looks like you have corrected the spacing throughout the site. The whole thing looks better. It's stunning how such a small change can make a huge difference.


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Posted by RedWood on Mon Feb 23rd at 10:08pm 2009

Does anyone els think if the number of votes casted were show next to the stars in the maps section, instead of only when hovered over, it would increase the number of people that vote?

Or maybe simply voting could earn you snark points? only after downloading the said map of course.

Just a thought.


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Posted by RedWood on Fri Mar 6th at 7:09am 2009

Any word on when we can make the move? im getting impatient. smiley


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Posted by larchy on Fri Mar 6th at 8:05am 2009

Not up to me!

Been working on the journals as you can probably see! Plus some CP changes... not had much time this past week though. Need to do a little more work on the journals yet too... but yeah, can move whenever.

I have noticed sometimes this host seems to timeout occasionally, but refresh the page and it works fine after 5secs or so... odd. I'll take that over globat though smiley



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Posted by reaper47 on Sat Mar 7th at 12:50pm 2009

Journals work great so far!


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Posted by larchy on Sat Mar 7th at 2:51pm 2009

I've gotta figure out where to jimmy them in to the profile pages, and I'm probably going to add a 'latest journals' page somewhere... but that's just minor bits and pieces.



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Posted by Riven on Fri Mar 27th at 11:29pm 2009

So, any word on the move, or am I just too anxious? Also, We absolutely must have a front page post about it, but I don't want the honors as I'll probably be jumping the gun. So someone like Gwil or Larchy should make a post about it after it occurs (since you guys I assume will be working on the Pit when the transfer actually does take place) I might try and make a graphic for it though smiley


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Posted by larchy on Sat Mar 28th at 8:19am 2009

Well all that actually needs doing is to point the domain at the new host, and I think Gwil has the details for that. That sort of change normally takes 72hrs to fully propagate.

Once that's been done and snarkpit.net comes here instead of globat I'll have to dump the globat database and some of the more recent content and get everything converted to the new db format... then upload... might take a day or so depending on what time I've got free.

I'm just waiting for that tho, can't do owt else until then.



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Posted by Gwil on Sat Mar 28th at 12:35pm 2009

I'll update when I have something to share - as larchy says it takes a while for DNS to propagate and even before that I need to liaise with Leperous to get some documents..

Once I have the keys for ignition i'll let larchy know (as to be database ready) then post over on the old site when we change the DNS.



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Posted by Riven on Wed Apr 1st at 9:10am 2009

Is something up with the active SnarkPit? Is there something brewing in the kitchen?!? It's giving me a: "Lost connection to MySQL server during query" error. I'm hoping it's because the transition has begun, and not some stupid Globat error...

-Now I'm all excited! smiley


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Posted by larchy on Wed Apr 1st at 12:30pm 2009

No, sorry, globat smiley



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Posted by Gwil on Wed Apr 1st at 6:40pm 2009

Don't get too excited, that will be the ever reliable Globat :P



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Posted by Riven on Sun Apr 5th at 2:03am 2009

I just got through fixing an issue where, Juim submitted an updated version of his map "dm_stinger". He called the updated version: "dm_ff_stinger_b7" and he created a whole new profile for it in the database. He accidentally clicked the "create a new thread for this map" option without wanting to. Thus, he ended up deleting the original map profile: "dm_stinger" and leaving dm_ff_stinger_b7 as the new latest version. The problem it caused was that it left behind an orphaned "dm_stinger" for a profile that no longer existed. And it also (accidentally) created an extra thread linking to the new map. But all Juim wanted was for the profile to be updated with the current thread and link. I was able to fix the problem and updated everything and also deleted the accidental thread, but I figured on the new pit this could become an avoidable problem if we were to implement a new system! The old pit, had "chapters" where members could add entire new threads all listed under the same thread in the map's forum in order to reference new versions of their map. I'd like to bring back this idea, but improve it a bit more. Make it more user friendly and obvious.

I think might be a useful feature on the new Pit where the original poster of a map's thread to have options in his reply box (perhaps underneath the smilies section) to add a tag to the map's thread listing as "Alpha 1" near the map's title. That tag would link an anchor to the start of where that map began that version in the thread. There could be a dropdown box that allows a user to set a map from Alpha1-5 and then Beta1-10, then 'final' or 'released'. Selecting one of those options for that post would add a bright-colored bar above that post denoting the start of the updated version of that map. That way, people interested in following the path that the latest version of the map has taken, they wouldn't want to click the "view latest post in this thread" no, they'd want to click the last tag in the thread 'version history' that would bring them to the first post of that version.

-Does it sound too complicated? It makes perfect sense in my head, so if you want a better explanation, I'll be more than happy to make some images or diagrams explaining myself!

BTW, too bad about the lagg on the current Pit. Was there an issue with not being able to cross over last weekend? If you guys need any help, let me know; I'll do whatever I can to help get the ball rolling (even if it means antagonizing Lep) smiley


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Posted by larchy on Sun Apr 5th at 7:12am 2009

I think I mentioned in one of the threads a while back that I was thinking about adding tabs to the threads, so you could actually have a tab for each version of a map.

Your method would work as well though, can't see any reason why it couldn't be implemented!

I've held off adding any more new features until we move though because the more changes I make to the backed the more I have to rewrite/add the scripts that copy everything over, and things are already pretty complicated. Will certainly look at it once we've moved though, and I do have some rough ideas written down about how to let people handle different versions more elegantly.

Spent quite a bit of time working on getting an upload progress bar for when you upload a map. Been a bit of an arse because you normally need to load an extension (even with the latest php version) which I don't have enough access to the server to do... but finally found a way of doing it that I can plug into the current upload page. Actually have the working code up here already on a hidden test page smiley Just need to do some layout/styling work and modify the way the backend handles the files a little bit. Hopefully anyway smiley

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As far as the move goes I've got no control over anything to do with the domain, so I've just been waiting until I hear something. AFAIK Gwil has been trying to get in touch with lep as he has the account details for the domain, but I think Gwil has said he can't get any reply... but he contacted the registrar and can get access somehow? Maybe?




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