State of the Union!
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Posted by Leperous on Tue Jan 20th at 10:40pm 2004


Better vote for the Democrats! BTW this is really anti-Bush, before you start whinging about anti-USA sentiments

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0: Number of funerals or memorials that President Bush has attended for soldiers killed in Iraq

100: Number of fund-raisers attended by Bush or Vice-President Dick Cheney in 2003

(... Iraq blah blah...)

1983: The year in which Donald Rumsfeld gave Saddam Hussein a pair of golden spurs

45%: Percentage of Americans who believed in early March 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks on the US

$127 billion: Amount of US budget surplus in the year that Bush became President in 2001

$374 billion: Amount of US budget deficit in the fiscal year for 2003

1st: This year's deficit is on course to be the biggest in United States history

$1.58 billion: Average amount by which the US national debt increases each day

$23,920: Amount of each US citizen's share of the national debt as of 19 January 2004

1st: The record for the most bankruptcies filed in a single year (1.57 million) was set in 2002

10: Number of solo press conferences that Bush has held since beginning his term. His father had managed 61 at this point in his administration, and Bill Clinton 33

1st: Rank of the US worldwide in terms of greenhouse gas emissions per capita

$113 million: Total sum raised by the Bush-Cheney 2000 campaign, setting a record in American electoral history

$130 million: Amount raised for Bush's re-election campaign so far

$200m: Amount that the Bush-Cheney campaign is expected to raise in 2004

$40m: Amount that Howard Dean, the top fund-raiser among the nine Democratic presidential hopefuls, amassed in 2003

28: Number of days holiday that Bush took last August, the second longest holiday of any president in US history (Recordholder: Richard Nixon)

13: Number of vacation days the average American worker receives each year

3: Number of children convicted of capital offences executed in the US in 2002. America is only country openly to acknowledge executing children

1st: As Governor of Texas, George Bush executed more prisoners (152) than any governor in modern US history

2.4 million: Number of Americans who have lost their jobs during the three years of the Bush administration

221,000: Number of jobs per month created since Bush's tax cuts took effect. He promised the measure would add 306,000

1,000: Number of new jobs created in the entire country in December. Analysts had expected a gain of 130,000

1st: This administration is on its way to becoming the first since 1929 (Herbert Hoover) to preside over an overall loss of jobs during its complete term in office

9 million: Number of US workers unemployed in September 2003

80%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce now unemployed

55%: Percentage of the Iraqi workforce unemployed before the war

43.6 million: Number of Americans without health insurance in 2002

130: Number of countries (out of total of 191 recognised by the United Nations) with an American military presence

40%: Percentage of the world's military spending for which the US is responsible

$10.9 million: Average wealth of the members of Bush's original 16-person cabinet

88%: Percentage of American citizens who will save less than $100 on their 2006 federal taxes as a result of 2003 cut in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,000: Average savings members of Bush's cabinet are expected to enjoy this year as a result in the cuts in capital gains and dividends taxes

$42,228: Median household income in the US in 2001

$116,000: Amount Vice-President Cheney is expected to save each year in taxes

44%: Percentage of Americans who believe the President's economic growth plan will mostly benefit the wealthy

700: Number of people from around the world the US has incarcerated in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba

1st: George W Bush became the first American president to ignore the Geneva Conventions by refusing to allow inspectors access to US-held prisoners of war

+6%: Percentage change since 2001 in the number of US families in poverty

1951: Last year in which a quarterly rise in US military spending was greater than the one the previous spring

54%: Percentage of US citizens who believe Bush was legitimately elected to his post

1st: First president to execute a federal prisoner in the past 40 years. Executions are typically ordered by separate states and not at federal level

9: Number of members of Bush's defence policy board who also sit on the corporate board of, or advise, at least one defence contractor

35: Number of countries to which US has suspended military assistance after they failed to sign agreements giving Americans immunity from prosecution before the International Criminal Court

$300 million: Amount cut from the federal programme that provides subsidies to poor families so they can heat their homes

$1 billion: Amount of new US military aid promised Israel in April 2003 to offset the "burdens" of the US war on Iraq

58 million: Number of acres of public lands Bush has opened to road building, logging and drilling

200: Number of public-health and environmental laws Bush has attempted to downgrade or weaken

29,000: Number of American troops - which is close to the total of a whole army division - to have either been killed, wounded, injured or become so ill as to require evacuation from Iraq, according to the Pentagon

90%: Percentage of American citizens who said they approved of the way George Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 26 September, 2001

53%: Percentage of American citizens who approved of the way Bush was handling his job as president when asked on 16 January, 2004

Taken from http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=482947





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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Tue Jan 20th at 10:41pm 2004


holy cow, im not reading all that [addsig]



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue Jan 20th at 10:50pm 2004


Fantastic statistics. America rocks!

But seriously, I don't like the Democrats either. If only there was a third party I could vote for...

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Posted by mazemaster on Tue Jan 20th at 10:58pm 2004


I'm sure that the pro-bush people can pull out just as many positive statistics, and I'm sure you could find equally damning statistics for any president in the history of the US. Statistics by themselves mean nothing.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Tue Jan 20th at 11:00pm 2004


....nice stats....now what the f**k are ya gonna do with em??....problem is, the democrats have thier own twisted sense of morality and underhanded sheit as well....damned if ya do, damned if ya dont.....CJ, lets start another party...the PIT party....tell em all to go f**k themselves eh?

i want to know what yer trying to convey here, in yer comfy little flat (assumed) across the big pond..... ya knew i couldnt let ya rest on that one man....

Doc Brass...





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Posted by Leperous on Tue Jan 20th at 11:13pm 2004


? posted by Campaignjunkie

But seriously, I don't like the Democrats either. If only there was a third party I could vote for...

Hmm, same thing over here, although we have a third party and they suck

And true, statistics don't mean a lot on their own, but a whole pile of them do, especially when most of them are simple facts I'm just trying to convey that Bush is a bit s**t really, and I can't understand why anyone would like him still :/ From my 'flat', it seems at this rate the thing he'll go down in history is f**king up the world either through incompetence, bitterness, or ties to defence industry- I have so far lived a life of freedom and safety, and I'll be dammed if he goes and makes me lose that. This war on terror being for my 'freedom', my ass...

Doc, perhaps you'll give me some positive reasons to think about in the interests of an 'even arguement'?





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Posted by Jinx on Tue Jan 20th at 11:21pm 2004


I'm not nuts about the Democratic candidates, but Bush is an out-and-out f**k any way you look at it.



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Tue Jan 20th at 11:27pm 2004


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45%: Percentage of Americans who believed in early March 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks on the US


Holy Christmas, people are actually that stupid over there? I pity you Americans [addsig]




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Posted by Vash on Wed Jan 21st at 12:18am 2004


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45%: Percentage of Americans who believed in early March 2003 that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 11 September attacks on the US


Holy Christmas, people are actually that stupid over there? I pity you Americans

We americans are not stupid! Now excuse me, I need to go give money to countrys we bombed and outlaw gays and minorities. Dont forget my love for guns.

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Posted by Cassius on Wed Jan 21st at 12:23am 2004


"I need to go give money to countrys we bombed and outlaw gays and minorities."

Yes. Let's not forget all those minorities we ignorant Americans have outlawed... oh, wait.

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Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Jan 21st at 1:02am 2004


Cause a Democrat like say LBJ would never ever get us involved in an unpopular war where we don't know all the facts.

And if you read up on your Alexander Hamilton economic theory, you'll see a national debt isn't necessarily a bad thing.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Jan 21st at 2:19am 2004


thats the thing Lep, i dont wanna argue....dammit, that is NOT why i come to yer site man....i can not sit here and tell you with a straight face that yer full of s**t, because quite frankly, yer not.....and believe me, it bothers the s**t out of me to be forced to read this "banging" on the US...i personally do not have the audacity to sit here and tell you how f**ked up YOUR little piece of the world is, that wouldnt be .... cricket. plain and simply, you know its f**ked, i know its f**ked, we are gonna hand MY KIDS a big pile of crap to deal with, and that frosts my ass....i dont need stats shoved in my face to know that Bush is full o' s**t, dean is a howdy-doodie type arrogant moron, or kerry (this one bothers me the most actually) uses his vietnam veteranship to play on the sorrow filled hearts of America....not a f**kin one of them holds a candle to a ...John F. Kennedy....and for the record, LBJ was almost as shady as the rest of them (do yer homework cash bud, your generation doesnt know the HALF of the s**t that went on....remember...vietnam?) .....

the point being, its all very sad, way the f**k out of hand, and no ones ass is any prettier than ours....but, there are worse....far worse. bank on it. it has developed into a nearly uncontrollable monstrosity....

and what absolutely frosts my ass is, i really cant do a f**king thing about it....i could raise holy hell, end up in prison, or some sheit, at my families expense.....it would hurt them the most.

kage, be glad yer not sitting across a table from me having a conversation about this....i guarantee you they'd have to pry me off you with a f**kin crowbar, you arrogant little blighter....

bah...ya wanna fight?...we'll argue till the cows come home, but Lep, we've been here before, which is why i cant understand why you'd bring it up again....i dont need you to tell me how f**ked up my world is....fact is, you barely scratched the surface....forgive me sir, because i refuse to reciprocate.

Peace.

Doc Brass...

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Posted by Jinx on Wed Jan 21st at 2:42am 2004


Americans are stupid- though we don't have a monopoly on it. Besides, I know another stupid English-speaking country that went along with us despite massive protests. Glad to know democracy doesn't work over there, either!



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Posted by Cassius on Wed Jan 21st at 3:12am 2004


It gets to a point of being really f**king pathetic when Americans call themselves stupid. What they really mean is everyone in the US except their enlightened liberal selves is stupid - because the people of Europe obviously posesses a massively superior collective intelligence to us yanks



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 21st at 3:44am 2004


Untill history prooves otherwise, I'm going to trust that the administration is doing what it thinks is best as far as forign policy is concerned. I do not, and cannot know enough about the issues to judge those actions. no one can without a high level security clearence.

what I am disapointed with is Bush's inability to cut spending at the same time he cut taxes. I'm very happy with tax cuts, but if you havn't got the courage to slash social programs with them... huge national debt. Plus there's his dumb idea to revive human spaceflight. I support space exploration, but at this point, putting humans up there has no scientific benifit.

I would guess that there are indeed a huge number of stupid people in the world, but I do not think they reside in any particular country or party.

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Posted by Jinx on Wed Jan 21st at 3:50am 2004


? posted by Cassius
It gets to a point of being really f**king pathetic when Americans call themselves stupid. What they really mean is everyone in the US except their enlightened liberal selves is stupid

Yes, I think you got it pretty much exactly right!





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Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Jan 21st at 4:23am 2004


? posted by Dr Brasso

and for the record, LBJ was almost as shady as the rest of them (do yer homework cash bud, your generation doesnt know the HALF of the s**t that went on....remember...vietnam?)

I think you missed what I meant. I was being sarcastic to the bone when I said that, I am not an LBJ fan at all.

Anyway, it's nice to know that twice as much money will now be spent on abstinence programs, because quite honestly there's so many people out there that would be abstinent if they just knew it was an option but weren't told about it cause we weren't spending enough money on it. </sarcasm>

In primary news, looks like we're down a Gephardt, and Dean didn't even place second! Some crazy mix-em-ups are going on around here, we'll have to see how it goes. Edwards got second on not much money, which is good for Dems because they need a candidate who can effectively campaign on smaller funds. The amount of money Bush will be sinking into re-election is absurd and there's just no way a Dem could come within a three day's drive of it.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Wed Jan 21st at 4:27am 2004


I missed the actual speech, but I heared the comentary on NPR. Abstinence? Gay Marrige? who really gives a f**k?

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Jan 21st at 4:32am 2004


cash, to you sir, my humble and most heartfelt apologies ....i guess ya caught me in an...."attempting to restrain" moment.....i 'spose i should know better...

Doc B.....

EDIT>>> and yes, that was probably the most devisive and overtly politicaly oriented speech ive heard in freakin' years....





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Posted by Cash Car Star on Wed Jan 21st at 5:24am 2004


The number of times Bush got a standing ovation from only half the room was hilarious.




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