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Posted by Leperous on Sat Jan 24th at 11:59am 2004

? posted by Jinx
From what I heard the rest of the game was about the same.

For the most part, yeah it was pretty average, although it did have a few cool levels & moments





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Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 24th at 12:04pm 2004

A bit like Halo really :/ It's the thing that make or break a "decent" FPS into something really great (like Half-Life) - an identity, a vibe.

There are too many games out nowadays which are just games for pick up/put down playing, a wasteful and lazy society taste which is pandered to more and more by the moneybags at the top.

Is it too much to ask for developers to make the areas indentifiable, original, "realistic" or give their game a storyline ? In these days, probably yes

[addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jan 24th at 12:39pm 2004

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or you could run in OpenGL


Have they said that there will be an OGL option? I prefer OGL, I just thought that it wasn't going to be an option...



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sat Jan 24th at 1:04pm 2004

Half-Life 2 is DX9 only, because all the fancy effects they've managed to get from DX9 will be incredibly difficult and/or impossible to recreate in the current OGL version (1.4 I think). [addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jan 24th at 5:23pm 2004

Well it certainly will run on non-DX9 hardware, just not with all the visual features enabled.



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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 24th at 5:32pm 2004

Maybe I should wait until the game release and buy a new card then... I have a feeling that I can't really trust the system requirements fully. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Sat Jan 24th at 7:47pm 2004

Kage, It's going to run on non-Windows platforms out of box, remember? For that to happen you need to be able to choose a video mode (and a different control set) other then DirectX.

It will have to support it. there are MANY gamers who love OpenGL(My self included). I know people who have ATIs and they use OpenGL most of the time, which is kind of weird because that's not what the card is Optimized for, but it works well nonetheless.

why is no one understanding what that means??

By the way I'm asking a real question, not being a smart ass.

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Jeff: No offense man, but what the F*ck are you talking about??? Valve is in love with DirectX, it will run with ALL the visual effects on a card that supports DX9 (What do you think they showed at E3, just because they're changing operation code doesn't mean they are changing the video modules).

Also, it would have all the fancy effects on an FX card from nVidia for OpenGL. That is the only nVidia card which even has pixel shaders, and nVidia are OpenGL freaks so, I'm sure Valve wont leave this little piece out of the puzzle.

Arguing the idea from what Valve said is pointless now anyway.
I agree with several of people who've said "wait for it to come out" because that is the only way you will know. I mean if you really want a shinny new video card just stop by a computer hardware store on your way home from picking up HL2 when it comes out, You'll know exactly what it needs at that point.
[/EDIT] [addsig]



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Posted by matt on Sat Jan 24th at 7:52pm 2004

You'll need a cardboard box running 10 inch hole or high with the re-inforced sellotape patch.

[addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jan 24th at 9:16pm 2004

Crono I think you need to re-read my post...



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 24th at 9:31pm 2004

@jeff

? posted by scary_jeff
Crono I think you need to re-read my post...

[addsig]



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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Sun Jan 25th at 1:05am 2004

I swear I remember reading it was only DX-based. Meh, maybe they meant you should really run it with DX9, because OGL isn't going to give you all the fancy effects. [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Jan 25th at 1:14am 2004

As long as my Geforce GO card can run it in 640x400 I'm set.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jan 25th at 1:18am 2004

? posted by Yak_Fighter
As long as my Geforce GO card can run it in 640x400 I'm set.

laptop about to fail you bud?

[addsig]



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Posted by asterix_vader on Sun Jan 25th at 1:21am 2004

? posted by Orpheus

like the maps that are with the alpha doom3 thingy, i am assuming the alpha HL2 thingy will/IS similar.
......

Orpheus?????





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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jan 25th at 1:23am 2004

? posted by asterix_vader

Orpheus?????

yes sir?

close your mouth, people will notice

[addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sun Jan 25th at 1:31am 2004

? posted by Orpheus
? posted by Yak_Fighter
As long as my Geforce GO card can run it in 640x400 I'm set.

laptop about to fail you bud?

I can always upgrade to the Geforce 4 GO... but that would require effort.





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Posted by Edge Damodred on Sun Jan 25th at 2:39am 2004

? posted by Kage_Prototype
I swear I remember reading it was only DX-based. Meh, maybe they meant you should really run it with DX9, because OGL isn't going to give you all the fancy effects.

There's nothing DX9 can do that OpenGL can't. Now whether Valve chooses to make it the same for both is another matter. If they're smart, they will.

Oh, and OpenGL is 1.5 right now with 2.0 being adopted at SIGGRAPH this year, at least that's the plan. Basically 2.0 is everything that was optional for vendors to support in 1.5. The most important thing of course is the shader language which they have spent a year perfecting.

[addsig]



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Posted by 2dmin on Mon Jan 26th at 12:16am 2004

I have a fundamental objection to laptops for gaming. The keyboards are so unresponsive, the screens s**te and of course they have crappy hardware coz they put all the effort into sizing it down not making it actually perform ... GET A DESKTOP





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Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 26th at 12:20am 2004

That's the point of a laptop lol.

By the way Jeff, I could've sworn you said it won't run on DX9, sorry about that, I was probably really tired.

Edge is 100% right by the way.

Not to mention, some people keep going on about how nVidia is going away from standards . . . what do you think DirectX is? lol. It's like one huge standard deviation. The standard for 3d stuff is OpenGL. [addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Jan 26th at 12:31am 2004

? posted by 2dmin

I have a fundamental objection to laptops for gaming. The keyboards are so unresponsive, the screens s**te and of course they have crappy hardware coz they put all the effort into sizing it down not making it actually perform ... GET A DESKTOP

...or buy a non-crap laptop? With a 3d card upgrade my laptop could run circles around your desktop... mainly because its portable so I could pick it up and actually run around your computer...






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