Fellas, lets not argue over general Snarkpit policy for two pages in a Maps thread; take it to the Suggestions.

Several months ago Orpheus had an argument, cried, gave an exhausting speech and left claiming never to return. Well he is back and still the same OLD Orpheus. Hey Orph... SHUT THE f**k UP!!!

-WhiteLegion

LOL i came on this thread to see wot the motel map was ....

Lemme ask something : how many 56k plays online hl2 ?

all there is to say.

I re-read this entire thread three times now, and we have 4 distinct camps.

1) the new people
2) the cry babies
3) the old timers whom can't tolerate over sized images
4) the old timers whom can.

1) its basically this.. they cannot show good judgment, and someone has to inform them when and where they went wrong.. how its handled can be important, BUT molly coddling is not essential.
2) this group, i cannot fathom. they have nothing constructive to add, one way or the other.. they just cry endlessly.
3) why should we tolerate them, can someone explain it maturely?
4) its your fault this topic never gets resolved!! if we stood united, the problem would never escalate to anger. i blame YOU, not the new people.

listen guys, for all your claimed intelligence, and such, most of you still lack the basics when is comes to locating where and when a problem becomes an issue. to you, it was the person whom cried "FIRE" when it should have been the person whom set the house ablaze.

i am not going to name, names.. you know which group you fall into and i am sure you will continue to remain within that group, because most of you have no inclination to change for the better.

i would like to stress, how i handled the new person may or may NOT have been wrong, but how you handled ME in front of them was as important, if not MORE SO.

you, any of you could have continued my thoughts, in a more constructive manner, but most of you took it upon yourselves to be even more childish than you claimed i was being.. damned few of you can be proud of yourselves, and this finger pointing really needs to end. it in particular shows the new people that if we cannot get along as old timers, how will they?

each and every one of you, whom did not go to any extent to show this person where they went wrong, are at fault. ALL OF YOU.

*shakes head and sighs*

yup, you made us look like a bunch of old women at a bitch fest.. shame on you. you had an opportunity, and you wasted it. i can honestly say, i am extremely disappointed in a few of you.

what remains to be seen is, do you feel as ashamed of yourselves, or will you continue to berate me for crying "FIRE".

myself? i think it will be the latter.

i appreciate your words 2D, but.. i cannot explain it.

in the end though... you are right. perhaps its best if the rest of you take up the gauntlet. most of you have not the sense of it yet, and as long as people like me retain it, you never will.

those of you whom think i handle things poorly, try it a while, its not as easy as you seem to think it is.

try walking in my shoes a while, then.. we can talk as peers. you may think, "what an arrogant ass" but whom is judging who?

that, is a very sad way to view this forum, but one i can at least comprehend.

thanx.