Well you probably should have started with a map that you had something bad to say about, since normally that's part of a review. But hey, I'm not complaining

Thanks Orph

You know, I never had a hard-set atmosphere for this map, only a vague theme. But when I first came to play it, it did feel a lot like an "ancient theme park/house of fun/demented playground of a diseased mind".

*whispers to mike*

i think he was asking me bud

i dunno, let me think about it, cause i read this a few times, and your asking, wasn't without its own level of hatred, the fact that you needed to remind me in several ways that i would have to do it without any personal feelings demonstrates your lack of forgetfulness..

all you needed to do was say do it orph, then let me carry the ball, after it was done, you could either gloat in my failure, or bask in my honesty.. you should know by now that SP doesn't automatically side with me, it is pretty level about flaying either of us for wrongs.

let me think on it a while, my reputation for honesty precedes our dispute, tis one of the major reasons it went on so long, cause you didn't seem to see it from that side.. if i recall, you were still my hero when i critiqued your other map, my unbiased honesty costed me one of my friends, and thats a hard pill to swallow..

let me consider it.

Really ? thats NOT my opinion and therefore not unaminous, it is a totally subjective viewpoint.

ttfn

? posted by Schmung
Blimey..
This DocRock/Orph thing seems to boil over everywhere and to be honest I think that blame can be apportioned to both sides, though I do not wish to get involved either way, I just think it would be easier if you just stopped baiting each other..

even a completely paranoid individual could not find fault anywhere in my preceding post this is not a DOC/ORPH thing, and i would truly appreciate it REMAIN that way... trying to incite, or find issues with my choice of interaction with doc, will NOT endear me toward you

? posted by Schmung
And Orph ,if in the meantime you wish to crush someones ego, feel free to do one of my TS maps. I need decent criticism (and more importantly crits of the constructive kind, since I roughly know what is wrong, though I'm not entirely sure how to fix it) but more importantly I'd just like to see what I consider to be a neutral view on one of my maps.

if you have an unfinished map i will gladly look at it and give a critique, assuming i have the time, i can look at other mods, and comment, but my experience primarily lies in HLDM.
my reviewing will be strictly HLDM

? posted by beer hunter

From the review - Ask anyone at Snarkpit about this map and the unanimous opinion is "PERFECTION"

Really ? thats NOT my opinion and therefore not unanimous, it is a totally subjective viewpoint.

ttfn

/me looks in profile at images, /me considers source and guesses that perfection, when compared to his maps is not good enough , /me guesses beerman is searching for an even higher form of praise for Mr. Hopley.

Doc, i thought about this all day and the answer is no.

NOT because i am afraid, nor do i feel that i could not be unbiased toward you, in fact i know it would be completely fair, BUT if i reviewed a map of yours and scored it well, except for my closest comrades most would assume i am sucking up, if i scored it badly most would assume i am continuing the issues, its just not worth it.

but i do need to say that i am a bit upset with a few of your choices in wording,

1) i don't need nor crave your respect, i would accept it if given, but it should NOT be a requirement for me DOING one of your maps in review.

2) you have no real idea how much involvement i truly give to most of the mappers here, either privately of even in public, so your choice of word "BIASED' is unfounded, i doubt seriously you load 1/10 of the maps i have ever critiqued, and i doubt out of the 11 reviews i have written so far, that you loaded more than 3 or those. i take offense to your saying i show favoritism at all

snarkpit has some of the best HLDM mappers left online active, and all save a few i have been a part of their growth and i am proud of each one of them... of the few who arrived at snarkpit already masters, i would hope that they would feel comfortable asking my opinions on anything they constructed.. but ask anyone i have critiqued for, i do not play favorites, i have been harsh with every damned one of them when the situation warranted it.. but i have to say it up front, if a mapper is extremely open to suggestions,and VERY apt to use my opinions, then there will appear to be biased, how can it not LOOK that way, the map has things in it i like, so others tend to notice them, most especially if it is a major contribution..

i would really ask that you PLEASE think before you accuse me from now on... my reviewing skills are in the process of learning still, i am very new at it and realize i need to grow into it some more, BUT i am still and will remain honest no matter whom it may hurt..

if gollums map had not been as good as it was, you can rest assured i would have said so.

mike, stop playing goalie, i know exactly what he meant, i also know what i meant, and IMO, anyone who is important is the everyone i spoke of..

its a catchword phrase...

its like telling the cops you didn't do it, "ask anyone"

its not like someone will actually go out and ask anyone, its just a saying.

if someone choses to PICK my words to death f**k THEM!

there let them pick on that word for a bit

i don't need, nor should i feel compelled to clarify my choice in words, but.. at least around here, people say "ask anyone" quite frequently.

its as common as bud, or reckon..

the sentence remains, as is, and the intent? EXACTLY as i said it

? posted by Gollum

*shrug* Okay then; it's not like I'm complaining

some people, have the desire to be, abrasive.

the comment was not a noteworthy one, beerman could have went all day and never mentioned it at all, but he felt compelled, you won't change him, and i think it beneath notice.

when he has made enough of a contribution to be an "everyone" around here, i will pay him his dues, till then?