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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 1:50am 2005

well my map is ifnally done. Plz try it out and tell me what you think. THX!





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Posted by ReNo on Mon Jan 17th at 1:52am 2005

You should post some screenshots to let people judge whether to download it or not.
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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 2:02am 2005

ok hang on lemme get some





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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 2:21am 2005

ok u have ur pics





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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Jan 17th at 2:35am 2005

Please tell me you spent less than 2 minutes on this.
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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 17th at 2:44am 2005

? quoting Gorbachev
Please tell me you spent less than 2 minutes on this.

funny, time invested.. < 2 minutes mapping, > 3 minutes uploading screen shots

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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 2:48am 2005

yeh ok, actaully try it out





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Posted by Juim on Mon Jan 17th at 4:01am 2005

OK I'm going to be honest with you, and maybe spare you some of whats to come. Without trying to be hurtful, your map will not recieve any praise here, based on these screens. Try also to understand, that most of the mappers here are somewhat seasoned professionals of varying degrees, and while I am sure you are proud of your work, you probably won't like the comments you are going to get. Your skills need polishing, that much I can tell you. Try downloading some of the other maps, and maybe read some of the more in depth map reviews here. I do congratulate you on completing a map, and hope you keep continuing to improve your mapping abilities. Best of luck.



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 17th at 4:05am 2005

you talk real purdy mr. juim.

yup, real purdy.

seriously 2000.. listen to the man..

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Posted by Cassius on Mon Jan 17th at 4:06am 2005

Splooging was the last thing on my mind after I saw this map.



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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 4:10am 2005

you guys do realize this is my first map right?



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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 17th at 4:39am 2005

? quoting kdhunt2000
you guys do realize this is my first map right?

and you do realize that we are being as gentle as possible?

we all have 1st maps, we all didn't have people as considerate as we are now.

consider the alternative.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Jan 17th at 6:29am 2005

My EYES! They burn!!

Seriously. This is the first map I ever released:Nulcear_Research

It's a s**tty title, and a mediocre map, but it doesn't make your eyes bleed when you look at the screens. The difference here is that I didn't release the first map I ever made. The lesson is, you ought to wait to release anything until you think you can score at least a 5/10 rating with it as compared to all the other maps on this site. With what you've given us, all we can return to you is derision. If you give us s**t to look at, don't be upset when we throw it right back at you. And um, yeah. Listen to Juim.

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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 6:36am 2005

man u guys are dicks, seriosuly, have you even played it? Everytime I play it with people (generally like 20) everyone loves it and we have a blast. I dont make em to look pretty, I make em so they have good play value and are fun to play. My next one is going to be a gauntlet, a s**tty looking map but it will be fun. Have u ever played glass floors? It is prtty much the same as this and it is a very popular map, u guys need to get off your high horse



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Jan 17th at 6:41am 2005

So your friends like it. We don't care. Most of the regulars around here consider mapping to be an art form. What you have done is akin to a five-year-old child's finger painting. There is nothing particularly wrong with that, just don't ask serious artists to praise it. [addsig]



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Posted by kdhunt2000 on Mon Jan 17th at 6:57am 2005

omg if u guys dont understand if a map is fun or not then you have lost everything that is mapping. If you map just to look at it and say wow, I made that isnt it pretty, but never play it cuase it is terrible than whats the point? Make a map so it is fun, sure making it pretty cna help too but make one that is fun as well, that is all that really matters, if its fun than it is done.





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Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 17th at 7:31am 2005

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omg if u guys dont understand if a map is fun or not then you have lost everything that is mapping. If you map just to look at it and say wow, I made that isnt it pretty, but never play it cuase it is terrible than whats the point? Make a map so it is fun, sure making it pretty cna help too but make one that is fun as well, that is all that really matters, if its fun than it is done.



A map that has absolutely no dynamic, but "Shooting" isn't fun. Believe me, most people will agree that the "art form" aspect is NOT just appearance. It's everything.


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Posted by $loth on Mon Jan 17th at 7:32am 2005

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Have u ever played glass floors? It is prtty much the same as this and it is a very popular map,


Popular? I don't think so, that map sucked.
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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Jan 17th at 7:44am 2005

I am glad you finished your first map! It's like busting a cherry that really hurts... everyone else. Now that you have the initial painful map out of the way, you can be on your way to greatness! We are not all dicks around here, you've just gotta realize that most of us here are insulted by how many "killbox" maps there are and how many utterly s**tty maps there are around. Furthermore FY maps get no respect, no respect at all. So you've just come into a very bad place. It'll get better with your next map. I think the screenshots are a bit confusing to me. I couldnt tell what was what! Why is it named splooge? I once made a HLDM map called XXX-fire and it was a giant penis that you climbed up in and you shot out the top from a bounce-pad in the center. It was fun to take screenshots of... [addsig]



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Posted by Mouse on Mon Jan 17th at 8:29am 2005

I gotta agree with you when you say that a map being fun is of a high priority. There's a lot of maps out there right now that look great but run poorly or suffer from bad flow.


That said:

I don't play CS, so I can't try out your map. However from the screenshots it looks real bad. It's your first map and no one is expecting amazing work from you right now. But there's no lighting, two textures, and no vertical play whatsoever. For me, this is not fun. For most people, this is not fun. This is the type of map that would be torn apart on the somethingawful.com map review site.

Don't get down about it, you're new to mapping and have a lot to learn. The most important thing you can do right now is learn. If you want to continue mapping to some degree of success, you can't fight learning. Learn lights, learn textures, learn how to build floors upon floors. Editing has a high learning curve these days, and if you really try, a year from now you will be able to look back at this map and say "Hey, those guys were right."


Also: The floor looks like it would make me blind.





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