few outside snarkpit have the cohesion that we have established here, i have seen failures too, but it was not directly the results of the beta testers, but more the close minded,untrustworthy, and/or in flexible nature of incompatible mappers and their techniques..

i offer my advice at any stage of the maps life, i force my opinions on no one, if i don't see the map till its put together, so be it, BUT when it calls for a major refit, because a section sucks, well thats an issue the author will have to deal with at that time.. any author.

maps fail from lack of feedback, they never fail because of it..

we, in the original pitcrew map, released compiled versions of the bsp from the beginning, but in pieces? not often, some of the participants opted not to.. BUT they were new to snarkpit then, it might be different now.

/ 2 cents

I agree with TB, here at Snarkpit, (the regulars at least) are all one big team. We all helped each other out, and we all give feedback (which we all take a reject as we see fit). So I dont mind having "outside" people see our work. But I do have a thing against sending other people our .RMF's. In my opinion, that is not something they need. .BSP's and screens are enough. And its only for feedback.

And I'm still waiting on sections here..

Since when do Shoes make a CLICK CLICK.. BANG! sound? =)

($)

wasn't he the father on the brady bunch?

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no.