yep....seconded....from the mouth of KFS, among others...

Doc B...

ok guys, im back from vegas had lots of fun.

so WC did you fix my section for me? if not you can always hand it over and ill start the fixing process tomorrow as im really beat right now.

aight hit me up WC. vacaution is over, time to start workin again

well, id say ask KFS mazey....hes told me on more than one occasion about this texture deal, especially when i was trying to make textures for NS, retouching them actually is what brought about the conversation....although i will admit its been pre-steam and official valve "sucking the life out of it for all its worth" time...

Doc Brass...

but for you, i will investigate further....

This has been stated over and over again by Valve: The moment the mod becomes official, the textures can be used by anyone working on a Half-Life level. I can use DoD, CS, TFC, DMC, and Ricochet (but why would anyone?) textures anywhere and everywhere HL related.

Now, I don't know if NS getting Steam support means its been dubbed official, and I would highly doubt it... I think official means Valve has been cutting checks to people or has been doing lots of coding/taken over aspects of its design... so I would say those textures are off limits for now. If the NS team wants to keep their textures theirs, they better not let Valve start helping.

but as far as I know, it isnt specified when you download the game that you cant use the textures. They are just there.

Dont get me wrong, if I am not allowed, I will remove the .WADs. But is it specified or is it just that you guys say that?

well, just to reitrerate what ive said all along, ive spent about 2 hours this morning and last night trying to find reference that says you CAN use them, especially since mazey brought up the point of the absorbtion by Valve of NS as an official valve backed mod....and i can find absolutely nothing that contradicts the known....NS textures are off limits for other mods still, as far as i can tell....i couldnt even find hints that it might be ok....so, use your own discretion.....but to be safe for this project, i'd say dont use em WC....the only reason i used them was i was too lazy to change over my wad stockpiles back to the norm....just my 2 cents man....

Doc Brass...

aight WC, thnx alot man

as for the NS texture usage, i too read on the NS site where they state that any use of NS textures outside of the NS mod were forbidden under any circumstances, and seeing as how NS isnt currently a Valve offical mod, you really cant use them legally. GL retexturing