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Posted by Liberal.Nyulism on Tue Mar 8th at 10:26am 2005


Please have a look, and play it with a few bots.

My comments are on the map posting.

New map for CS:Source. Pretty good I think.





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Posted by habboi on Tue Mar 8th at 3:39pm 2005


Although i'm not a fan of dust remakes, this map looks splendid! [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 8th at 4:01pm 2005


I am oh so big a fan of optimized screens, but i have to say that these ones are annoyingly little.

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Posted by Gwil on Tue Mar 8th at 6:11pm 2005


Yeah cut us some slack chief - at least 640x480 would be nice I'm loathe to download EVERY map and nicely sized and optimised screens ensures lots of feedback.

But with diddy little things like that, we can't see or say anything about it!
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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 8th at 10:33pm 2005


I don't critique CS maps generally, but perhaps this thread will get you the results you desire.

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Posted by French Toast on Tue Mar 8th at 11:43pm 2005


I'll give it a go. I'm incredibly bored right now. Really, you would be surprised. I'll download it once I figure out how to take screenshots and where they go I'm really incredibly unaware of how this works. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Mar 8th at 11:57pm 2005


? quoting French Toast
I'll give it a go. I'm incredibly bored right now. Really, you would be surprised. I'll download it once I figure out how to take screenshots and where they go I'm really incredibly unaware of how this works.

? quoting French Toast
Fine, I'll tell you just because I'm sick and have nothing better to do. You're being stupid by being a flagrant jackass. You came in here with no knowledge of ..etc..etc..etc

/me has been waiting ages to use this quote
now, we're even.
/runs
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Posted by French Toast on Wed Mar 9th at 12:00am 2005


Yeah I know Congratulations please drop it know. I'm very ashamed of that post, it was not one of the highlights of my usage of these forums. I also scanned your tutorial of screenshots, but it doesn't say which button takes them (I know it's an F<something>) and I'll just browse for awhile to find out where they go. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 9th at 12:09am 2005


i was playing butthole

as for the screenshot key, its default is F5, but its customizable.. look in your keyboard settings under options..

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Posted by Gwil on Wed Mar 9th at 4:41pm 2005


Errrr...

We arent looking to alienate people by slapping their maps down with sarcastic attacks, we try and help people by giving them constructive advice. And we certainly aren't trying to attain a "control" over the market.

The site is primarily for HL/HL2 and not its mods, which probably (along with the original size of the screenshots) explains the lack of feedback.

WTF was all that about cannons, too? Your complaints arent very clear at all because you've waffled, and all that reference to "cannons" has gone over my head. You'll have to explain what one is, as I always thought of a cannon as being a large gun powered by an explosive charge..

I'll have a look if youre going to whinge so much, but dont expect feedback if you spit in the face of a community that isnt focused on CS at all, but is willing in the past and present to help such mappers.

Edit - BTW, creating some kind of lexical set to go with your apparent arrogant and self assured attitudes toward intelligence is actually making you look incredibly stupid.

As I suspected, you must mean "canon" - and it isn't pluralised with double N. Buy a new dictionary, or take the advice - "don't use a million dollar word when a 5 cents one will suffice".
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Posted by Leperous on Wed Mar 9th at 4:54pm 2005


? quoting Liberal.Nyulism
And yes, I know better. I designed the information architecture either in whole or in part, of three of the top ten web sites in the world, and dozens in the second tier.

Er, right, you being an executive and world-wide-internet-guru explains why you're wasting your time on my piss-poor website, and why you failed to notice that at the end of the day this is built around a hobby whose only link with money goes so far as the yearly hosting bill- maps are not a market. And why your website has a ridiculously long list on the right of books, that no-one in their right mind would read in that format. If you people paid me to do this then I'd quit, form a dedicated team and show you real information architecture...

Feel free to give me some helpful criticism though, rather than saying this site should be more like an online magazine and have a whole editorial team working to ensure the masses have access to the hottest new maps. We offer tutorials and the ability to show off your level, and it would be nice to link the whole process together, but without the manpower to organise it all it's not really feasible.

And you want to know why there's "no traffic" in here? It's because most people, like yourself, just turn up and expect fawning praise, without helping other people with their maps. Without a link built into the SDK directing people here, the volume of passers-by simply isn't enough to ensure that there is a large, core group of selfless/map hungry individuals. VERC is only more helpful for that one reason. Why not go help out with the other CS maps here, such as cs_assault_sg, instead of complaining that the community isn't dying to help you out?

On the one hand, I am astounded with your arrogance (and nonsense about 'cannons'), but on the other a bit miffed at the unhelpfulness so far shown in this post. But without charging people $10/year for memberships, that's what you should expect.

As for your map- I, like many others here, don't play CS, though from the screenshots it looks decent, though nothing new or amazing. Nice skybox!





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Posted by ReNo on Wed Mar 9th at 5:00pm 2005


Your displacement surfaces look prety sharp and unrealistic, try smoothing them off a bit. Also, is it just me or have you overscaled some of the textures? The standard texture scale should be 0.25 for most things, with the occasional scaling up to reduce repetition over large surfaces such as big ground areas or rock faces.
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Posted by Liberal.Nyulism on Wed Mar 9th at 10:38pm 2005


I returned an insult in response to insulting sarcasm, perhaps it was too subtle or complex, and the meaning lost or missed. But bad manners need repercussions. It's just one's moral duty to society. There is far too much talk here about incompetence elsewhere, when those other realms have both competence and civility. Arrogance is a useful trait at times. It is not always unwarranted. But my cast at arrogance is merely the presentation of a mirror. And a justified one, I think.





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Posted by French Toast on Wed Mar 9th at 10:50pm 2005


I think it would be a good idea to lock this thread.

Anyways... Due to a virus on my computer that won't allow my computer to start up normally, I can't do a review of this map, or really do anything for awhile during the time that by dad tries to fix my computer.

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Posted by Leperous on Wed Mar 9th at 10:54pm 2005


? quoting Liberal.Nyulism
I returned an insult in response to insulting sarcasm, perhaps it was too subtle or complex, and the meaning lost or missed.

That's what happens when you don't use enough smilies on the internet Anyway, back the map...





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Posted by Liberal.Nyulism on Wed Mar 9th at 10:59pm 2005


Reno;

I understand. I'll make another attempt at the displacements. I think, the first few times you make them, in the editor, it's hard to judge what you're doing, and too easy to overdo it, rather than use them for subtlety.

Well, I did overscale a few of the textures in order to avoid cutting brushes, or to make up for textures without A,B and C variants. But it sounds like I cant get away with it if you noticed it.

I keep having problems with overstretching or shrinking the overlays, which need to fit into certain spaces. Do you know if there is a way to scale the texture on an overlay, so that you can fill a space with the overlay, then scale the texture to fit the space?

Thank you very much for your comments.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed Mar 9th at 11:08pm 2005


I'm really not 100% on what you are asking about the overlay issue. All I can suggest is you take a look at my tutorial on the topic, and hopefully it will shed some light on how they work.
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