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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Nov 3rd at 4:05am 2005

A swampy forest is cool with me!

I was thinking about putting blurry lights in the air. in the trees. They would move randomly and just act as some ethereal-looking illumination. like ghosts or something.

The cave/tomb will go into a sort of dungeon that connects to the planned castle/manor ruins that will hopefully bring a lot more atmoshpere to the place. One side of the map will end in a foggy lake, the other side will be blocked off by rocks, cliffs, or castle walls in various places. I dunno what I'll do about the sides yet.

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Posted by Crono on Thu Nov 3rd at 4:25am 2005

Nickel, this has got some good atmosphere. I think it'd be a waste to have it be 'some' swamp. It has a real "Grimm" feel to it. It'd be really cool to see (at least in a different version) some implementation of fairy tales. It'd be cool.


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Posted by Captain P on Thu Nov 3rd at 2:39pm 2005

I like that moving lights idea and a castle or monastory would fit great here. I'm looking forward to the next stage of this map. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">



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Posted by Underdog on Fri Nov 4th at 12:34am 2005

I have not seen any quality rain maps in HL2 yet so I think I'll post this question here to see if it has an answer. Can rain be made intermittent?

I mean, rain hardly ever falls consistently the same for extended periods. Except in the tropics maybe.

Anyway, nice shots. I forgot to look, is there a download link yet?




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Posted by Crono on Fri Nov 4th at 12:52am 2005

He could have the entity managed by a logic timer (or something like that). If the entity doesn't support on and off, you can quite literally, remove and add the entity at certain times (using a logic timer, or something like that).


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Posted by Underdog on Fri Nov 4th at 1:18am 2005

? quoting Crono
He could have the entity managed by a logic timer (or something like that). If the entity doesn't support on and off, you can quite literally, remove and add the entity at certain times (using a logic timer, or something like that).

You're doing it again. Reminding me how dumb I am. That quite literally made no sense at all.

But, its not as important that I know as that if you say its possible maybe Nickelbag can use it as a suggestion?




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Nov 4th at 1:56am 2005

Yeah -- that makes sense, it might work. It's worth trying.




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Posted by Crono on Fri Nov 4th at 2:37am 2005

I've never personally done it. But I know you can kill and spawn entities at will ... so ... that's always an option if the entitiy doesn't need to be in a special state.

Yes, I'm sure Nickel has some idea of what I'm talking about ... whenever he gets around to reading what I said.


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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Nov 4th at 5:56am 2005

Is it possible to do that to a brush-based entity? Anyway, I was thinking about adding the proverbial "Path" that we hear about in all the stories.

The forest path from Hansel and Gretel
the bridge from The 3 Billy goats Gruff
the Cave from multiple stories
ruins from multiple stories

What do you all think about some fog?




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Posted by Crono on Fri Nov 4th at 7:20am 2005

Go for it. It'd allow you to keep FPS UP and it'd make a handsome solution for the 'edge' of the map issue.

I just thought of something to make it confusing, but cool. In places of INTENSE fog, you could have some teleport entities to take you to another part of the map that is fogged up, thickly. The map would seem to go on forever (hopefully).

But, that's just an idea for it's use.

No, it can't be brushed based. But, rain isn't ... is it?


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Posted by Underdog on Fri Nov 4th at 1:51pm 2005

? quoting Crono
Go for it. It'd allow you to keep FPS down and it'd make a handsome solution for the 'edge' of the map issue.

Old habits. Intensely hard to break them.

In the old days it was "Keep r_speeds down" Now its "Keep FPS up"

Does fog really increase framerates? Nice bit of info to remember.




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Posted by Captain P on Fri Nov 4th at 2:51pm 2005

I don't think suddenly stopping the rain has a good effect, rather, it'll make it appear fake. A subtle change between rain intensities is needed. I don't know if that's possible, so if it's not, maybe doing what Crono suggested while still keeping a rain entity active to mask the sudden transition somewhat?

To keep fps down, you can limit the render distance, don't know exactly how this works as I haven't had trouble with it so far, but it's possible, and fog is a nice mask for it then. However, i find dense fog on open area's to be more annoying than really nice. I think hiding teleports would then only make it more confusing. Maybe it works and it's fun, personally I just don't like it. But it surely makes the map harder to learn.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Nov 4th at 3:16pm 2005

Is it possible to have two rain entities (of different intensities) working at the same time? You could blend the weather that way... or you could just have one cut off and the other (either more or less rainy) start right up where the other entity left off. Maybe?




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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Nov 4th at 5:34pm 2005

rain is brush based.. and unfortunately, if you have one rain entinty inside of another, they cancel out.. I tried in DM_castle a long time ago, I wanted more rain to pour down at the edge of my roofs, and it cancelled it out...


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Posted by Crono on Fri Nov 4th at 5:37pm 2005

Oh, well. Scrap that then, unless there's input options to change intensity.

Uh ... up. Sorry, I'll change that.


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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Fri Nov 4th at 11:02pm 2005

I think you should put some func_dustclouds in some low areas the add a special fog effect. Perhapes even add some wolf howling sounds in the backround for some atmosphere.



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Posted by Nickelplate on Sat Nov 5th at 12:28am 2005

Oh, I've got some sounds planned out. and some good light FX too. Don't wanna give it all away, luv!




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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Nov 30th at 6:04am 2005

Okay! I finally got somewhere with this! I've added/changed the following.

  1. The name is now DM_Tempelwald It may be changed yet again before the end, and it means Temple Forest in german for those of us who don't speak german.
  2. The perimiter is set.
  3. I added some of the ruins
  4. I finished most of the Displacement work.

Next I'll work on lighting effects and the underground segments.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Nov 30th at 6:06am 2005

I'd love to see some updated screens.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Nov 30th at 6:10am 2005

Lol, you posted while I was taking them!!! Download the map and tell me how much you loved it!


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