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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Sun Feb 19th at 6:47pm 2006


I'd like some beta testers for my map, Toxicity, which may be renamed because another user has already chosen the name.

>>/EDIT: I recieved the go-ahead from the other mapper to use the name Toxicity.



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 19th at 9:41pm 2006


There is a great chance of getting a critique or two, but beta testing is for bigger projects, ain't it?

Slip of the word perhaps.

Sadly, I can no longer even load HL1, I miss doing that. There are quite a few here who still have it, and are pretty nifty with getting the kinks worked out of a mappers creativity.

Good luck.

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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Sun Feb 19th at 9:51pm 2006


I'm the same Victor-933 from Prefabland :O




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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Feb 19th at 9:55pm 2006


? quoting Victor-933
I'm the same Victor-933 from Prefabland :O

Thought so. What took you so long?

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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 20th at 1:49pm 2006


HL1 is nearly a dead horse so it might take a special plea to get any critiques. I can only say that we do have people here who have HL1 still, but it would be rude of me to point them out since I cannot really volunteer them.

My advice. Show people here how willing you are. Post more screens, and give them something to look at. They do not have to show that you are superb. Just that you have something that is worth their time.

For all they know, you have only 2 areas built.

/2 cents.

(Post me a dozen screens and I will comment as best as I can.)





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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Mon Feb 20th at 10:13pm 2006


The three screenshots show the main rooms of the map -- most of it is hallways. As with Sublevels there were originally more rooms but unfortunately they were scrapped in favor of less lag -- these rooms included a nifty little pump room and an awesome incinerator. With the bots and few people I've managed to scrape together the gameplay has been fast and furious. My copy of HL is pre-steam; that is, it attempts to use the old WON servers, so I'm stuck with LAN games. Luckily there are 6 computers in this house all networked together


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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 20th at 10:44pm 2006


? quoting Victor-933
As with Sublevels there were originally more rooms but unfortunately they were scrapped in favor of less lag --

I have built, and been associated with some massively complex HL1 maps. Properly optimized levels are never to complex, or better, if you stay within the limits of the engine, no level is to complex.

If you scrapped the areas, it was a design flaw that did it.

For some reason, your image link is borked.





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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Mon Feb 20th at 10:54pm 2006


Well.. I've noticed that almost all lag disappears when I run a full compile.. However, with the current version of Toxicity that takes 20-35 minutes and I don't have the patience to do that every time I change something >.> I may add the Incinerator room back to Toxicity.

Perhaps the lag was caused by my construction method -- creating a base hallway section and then simply modifying it and placing dozens of cloned sections throughout the level to form the layout. Incredibly lazy, but it works.. for the most part. :O

As for the link, it's "hosted" by deviantART.
The Incinerator



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by diablo on Tue Feb 21st at 12:54am 2006


I still have Half-Life installed. I'll give it a bit of a test run if you want. Will have to be tomorrow though.



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Tue Feb 21st at 10:16pm 2006


? quoting Orpheus:
HL1 is nearly a dead horse


I'm hoping to upgrade to HL2 mapping once I can get ahold of another copy. I bought the collector's edition, not knowing it was on a DVD -- hell the only thing that said that was a postage-stamp-sized label reading DVD-ROM and I never look at those things, since I'm so used to them being CD-ROM. Stupidly, I gave it to my friend (but kept the shirt, which I'm wearing right now ).. looks like it's time to start saving up again smiley



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Feb 21st at 10:33pm 2006


Odd, a new version of HL2 = 50 bucks. A new DVD rom = 30 bucks..



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Tue Feb 21st at 10:43pm 2006


The ironic thing is...

I got a DVDROM/CD burner combo drive for christmas. smiley



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Mr.INSANE on Sat Mar 4th at 11:00pm 2006


Although this is offtopic halflife is not a dead horse

Take a look at how many people play counterstrike,NS,TS

the community is still very much alive

Personally i belive that if your a good mapper you can make good looking maps in hl1. If you have to use hl2 to make your maps good your obviously not that great a mapper

Back on topic
The boiler type thing is very nice but the rooms need a tad bit more detail and some of the texturing could be a bit better.

btw i have another pc that i could test it on 500mhz p2 baby and a mx400 video card




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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Sun Mar 5th at 4:08am 2006


Thanks for the comments. As for architecture... faces are starting to disappear because there's so much s**t in the map :O Maybe it's bad construction or something..

That computer of yours would be perfect for it. I'm afraid the map would be IMPOSSIBLE to run in Software mode though -- half the halls disappear.

Send me a PM if you want the download link



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 5th at 1:09pm 2006


Victor, I built almost all of my HL1 maps on a K62 400 with about 384 megs of ram.

Anything built properly, will run on a K62 400.

You might wanna post some screens with the R_Speeds turned on so we can ascertain just how badly you need to optimize this thing if you have anything at all disappearing.

Walls will ONLY disappear in software mode after about 1000 if I recall. Since you should only be mapping at 800, you have a nice 200 cushion to your map.

Post those screens.





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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Elon Yariv on Sun Mar 5th at 4:46pm 2006


I also have Hl1. If you like I can beta test it for you! Just send me an Email with the map attached. If it's too big tell me and I'll log onto MSN. image


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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Sun Mar 5th at 5:46pm 2006


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Running in Software mode.

For some reason -- probably too much crap visible -- it spams me with the message "SHORT X SURFACES" or "SHORT ROUGHLY Y EDGES"

I may not even release this map unless I can optimize the hell out of it



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Elon Yariv on Sun Mar 5th at 6:56pm 2006


Change the graphics to direct3D or openGL.(which is the best) Software can only render 800 wpolies.

Here is a little trick: In the texture aplication choose a face and press alt+right mouse click. The texture's attributes are copied and aglined to the other face.

Try doing it with the lower trims(first pic) and the vertical faces on their sides.



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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 5th at 7:50pm 2006


*throws hat on floor*

God dammit son.

421k for a screenshot? Where you been since you've known me?





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Re: Toxicity
Posted by Victor-933 on Fri Mar 17th at 2:36am 2006


I've worked out a variant of Toxicity set in a metal foundry. This variant is named Slagheap.




Let me know what you think.




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