Humm... nice but...but odd looking for a DM map... i just dont know why, put i guess its good... i'll be waiting for the map release.

OK I did some serious re-thinking and have completed the following:

1.) downsizing as suggested by Reaper and others outside the pit. Maybe not enough for all, but the train station is gone. I left the lower level and added a teleport with 2 destinations.

2.)I also added a tunnel texture for future useout in the street.(3d skybox?)

3.) I opened up two of the storage units in the street (for throwables)

4.)added morelights here and there.(I am getting rid of dark patches as I go).

5.) changed sky texture (thx jacfu).

A question. Is there a way to control the seperate water sources around the map so they dont pop in and out like that? Individual load control entities or something?.

download:

http://gamersdiner.com/downloads/dm_stonepark_alpha4.zip

these things and a few decorative touches should lead us into the final beta.

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CombineX, Thank you for your time and effort. Although it may have seemed so awhile ago, this thread is not dead by along shot. In fact I have the day off so I thought I would post the final Alpha .

http://gamersdiner.com/downloads/dm_stonepark_alpha5.zip

I took into consideration several things you mentioned, plus, tweaked a few more that I have been thinking about. This is the final alpha. Based on some playtesting I suspect I will only have a single beta. Thanks again for your time.

1.) I chopped another 20% or so off of the lower areas. I keep getting complaints about size. I may decide to release a larger teamplay version once I am finished with this.

I have spruced up the lower room quite a bit. May add some more pipes etcetera for the final build

3.) I raised the wall where youhad mentioned.(I was always planning to do something there. I will probably add a light and a back gate to one of the buildings).

4.) I widened many of the upper walkways, to add to playability and maneuverability.

wow, the hall looks really neat now, also downloading alpha. glad to know it's not dead.(I haven't been here for a while, like reaper sayd.)

Oh, i forgot to say that theres really peculiar (OMFG what a word, it taked time to check that up)and nice theme in the map.

Thanks Orph for the in depth-ness-ism.

I was invited to a playtest of the map last night by the [FF] clan on a locked server. About 14 of them showed up at one point and they went to town on me.

Suggested changes were abounding. Many(in fact most of them) you have given, echoe their suggestions. I have started to make many of the changes as early as this morning before I left for work.

I added more teleporters for connectivity,

a series of staggered pillars down both the left and right tunnels,

I am going to connect the water pools underneath with a tunnel and perhaps another RPG cave.

enlarge the skybox a bit (I am considering a 3-d skybox still)

open up the top of the empty elevator shaft and connect it to the top floor.

I am constantly tweaking the lighting and will take into consideration many of your suggestions indeed.

About the fps. I am seeking guidance from a hint/skip brush expert who might suggest the desired placement of said items for optimization of performance.

The ticket booth was a holdover from when I had a full blown subway station in the early alphas. (just chane the number to 2 or 3 on the download link if you want to see those versions). Anywho, it seemed alright to leave it as I was vested in its presence architectually.

At this point (as you can well attest to) I am dangerously close to performance issues, so all I can do for the most part is optimize, optimize, optimize.

Lets see if I can make her hum alittle softer eh?

Thanks again for the excellent crit Orph!