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Posted by LeJean on Tue Aug 29th at 7:19pm 2006

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Some images in this post have been automatically down-sized, click on them to view the full sized versions:Hey there image

I'd like to show my current project to you. It's a very small HL2 Deathmatch map, for I think between 2 and 6 players. There hasn't been a playtest, yet...

sorry for the pics being a bit larger...
some spots in the map:




some kind of overview.



I hope you like it and thank you for every comment image

P.S.: I will do a new complete compile in the next few days, and I've already got a list of things to change, for example there are things like:
- turn down bumpmap of brick texture
- place all planned models in the map (light sources)
- replace the vertical white stones on the walls with models
- add volumetric light (texture for it is not done, but will come soon)

what do you think of these ideas?

thanks,
LeJean



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Posted by midkay on Tue Aug 29th at 10:46pm 2006

Hey, here are a few thoughts about the screenshots. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

First shot: The bricks should be less deep (sounds like you're planning to fix that) and also they kind of clash with the wood (a bumpy rocky brick texture simply "turns into" a wooden floor). Maybe you can blend them better with some decals/overlays and maybe you can leave some small chunks of brick or rock around so it doesn't look so clean.

Second shot: I like this area, quite moody. It feels very warm and old-fashioned. I like the lighting. Your architecture is cool, I like that windowlike opening in the center and the whole structure of the area. What's with that dust, though, right along the ground in the distance? Is it always there, just floating or something? Tone it down a bit, I think.

Third shot: More dust, this could certainly use a bit more transparency. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> I love how every other brick is perpendicular in the window structure, details like that are very good. Again a nice old-fashioned mood.

Fourth shot: Looks like a fun layout. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> That spiral staircase looks cool.

Final thoughts: Looks like a fun layout, nice architecture/detail, moody.. but.. I think you should try different lighting styles in a couple areas. The torch/fire idea is nice but looking at the layout it looks rather overused throughout the entire map. Maybe you can find another way to light the place a bit, maybe with a different color of lighting.

Nice job nevertheless, I'd like to play it sometime. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


-- midkay



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Posted by Belgarion on Wed Aug 30th at 9:17pm 2006

very nice atmosphere. i love it. nice use of textures and lighting, and lots of verticle gameplay. looks good.


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Posted by [FF]FNDR.Jake_Brake on Thu Aug 31st at 3:36am 2006

This looks very nice with very unique txtures and coloration! I can't wait to play it! If you could increase it's size a tad, I think I could host it on my 14 player server. Keep up the good work!



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Posted by Crono on Thu Aug 31st at 6:48am 2006

I want to start off by saying ... this looks nothing like Quake ... not one bit.

The only thing I see that is visually un-appealing is the contrast between the wood and stone. The stone, specifically, looks great and I don't think it should change. But the wood should. Use some nasty ass mucked up plank of wood texture. There's actually one in HL2 that I think could work, You might want to check it out. (The "wood/woodfloor" series)

I would also suggest, based on the first screenshot, to make that lid destructible or something like that (maybe even a physics object). Opening and closing lids, like doors will slow down gameplay in a dm map, generally.

As for what you have planned:

1) I don't think it should be touched. It looks good.
2) Go for it ... ?
3) If you think that will make performance better, then by all means. But if it doesn't really matter, it will probably be fine the way it is (unless you have some other plans for it)
4) Not sure what you mean. Like glows?

In the lighting department, it looks good for a map, but as "immersive" it would make more sense for it to be darker. But, that would not work well for playability.

The layout looks like it's good and is connected well. You should throw some bots in there (if you can) and see where they frequent, get slaughtered, so on and so forth.


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Posted by reaper47 on Fri Sep 1st at 12:42pm 2006

LeJean, this looks wonderful.

I would leave the bumpmaps like they are, too. Also I agree with Crono that the wood textures should look older and more rotten. The trasition between the wall and floor textures looks a bit too abrupt, generally. The walls are almost black while the floors have this brownish, earthy tone. Maybe a stone floor with some structure would look good.

I's a delight to see all the effort you put into custom content pay off in this map. I think I'll like it a lot.



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Posted by LeJean on Sat Sep 2nd at 3:03am 2006

hey guys, thanks a lot for your comments <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Of course, I'm always workin on it - here are some new screenshots:

www.lejean.computer-dc.de/first_try/dt_c34.jpg
www.lejean.computer-dc.de/first_try/dt_c35.jpg
www.lejean.computer-dc.de/first_try/dt_c36.jpg
www.lejean.computer-dc.de/first_try/dt_c37.jpg

things I have to mention:
- the sky is a bit too dark, I know <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
- bumpmaps have been "lowered" (but still looks gut imo)
- volumetric light added
- I'm still not lucky with the volumetric-light texture... gonna fix that, but I'm not the best in 2D art <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
- light of the flames is imo a bit too bright right now, I'll fix this, too, and add some ambient lights to increase the influence of the blue tone coming through the windows

I'll see what I can do with my wood-texture (actually, it is one of the HL2 textures. don't know which one exactly but perhaps I can find a better one.
Concerning the brickwall and the floor: at the moment, I don't know how to du this. placing a simple trim (eg. brighter stones, such as the arcs) is a bit... well... lame <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
I think about that!

thx,
LeJean



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Posted by reaper47 on Sat Sep 2nd at 10:11am 2006

The volume light looks good in most sceens, maybe it's a bit too bright. I'm not sure about this pic with the star-shaped volume light? It should have vertical rays in from the bars of the window.

No need for trims for the floor... just try a texture that looks a bit more like stone ( stone/stonewall036a for example). Maybe it fits better with the walls?



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Posted by Gwil on Sun Sep 3rd at 11:53pm 2006

I'm not sure if I like the volumetric light, it only seems to work well in the 3rd shot. My main gripe is that feels it out of place - this place is lit by torches and is not overly dingy, and it's nighttime outside.

Just seems a bit weird.

Trims between the wall and floor would look out of place. Perhaps you should change some floors to dirt instead of wood, or, have the wood planks overlap the edges in places. Perhaps to make a smooth transition between wood floor and stone wall you need small piles of dirt to break it up somewhat.





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