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Posted by Victor-933 on Tue Jun 12th at 10:38pm 2007

Seriously though, I need some critique on this map. I know, I know, HL1 maps don't belong in HL2DM, but hell I'm tired of all the combine bases and all that. This game needs a basic arena, with no real theme, just for fragging fun. I could've ported Antareus Core, but most of the entities would be invalid and I'd have to redo all the timing and such, and it'd just be a pain in the ass. I already tried it with HLDM:S. So, I'm puking Idunno (Now DM_Convulsion) into the Source engine. I resized and sharpened the textures to make them look better, and I'm going to add bump mapping as soon as I can get off my ass, download the Photoshop trial, and run the textures through.

Don't complain about the lack of physics objects, there's a few barrels and some crates, it's supposed to be a classic-style arena, not an abandoned Combine base in the middle of a destroyed mining town.

I chose the name Convulsion, because it reflects how this map is more of a Quake-ish arena than a Half-Life level

----EDIT----
Was going to post a beta because the screenshot doesn't do it justice, but Filexoom is acting up and I absolutely refuse to use Rapidshare


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Posted by Victor-933 on Wed Jun 13th at 10:21pm 2007

For some reason Snarkpit doesn't like Firefox, or something. I had to delete a bunch of HTML code that keeps appearing in this box, and I had to manually set the color to white. Anyway, here's Beta 1 of DM_Convulsion image

Filefront link


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Posted by Le Chief on Fri Jun 15th at 3:21pm 2007

That screen shot on the top left of the screen looks original. So many times have I seen maps for half-life 1/2 that use the theme of campaign, eg: HL1 blackmesa, HL2 Citidal or someplace of city 17. Same textures same lighting. OMG!

Anyway I clicked on the link from the description above and looked at the screenshots there and they look like there from Half-life 1?




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Posted by Beetle on Fri Jun 15th at 3:54pm 2007

I don't know whether you ported the textures along with it or if you just stretched them, but in both cases that's bad. I'll just assume they are stretched and say you shouldn't stretch em like that. Most of the textures appear out of focus and grainy/pixel-ly. But that being said, everyone has to start somewhere, and I've seen much worse. Oh, and I think you should be able to jump on the generator things. :P



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Posted by mazemaster on Fri Jun 15th at 4:35pm 2007

So, wayy back when I started mapping for HL1, a wise mapper gave me some great advice, so I will pass it on here.

First, the lighting for your map should be overwhelmingly white, with _subtle_ color effects to add feel. If you look at the top-notch maps with colored lighting, it may seem like they have a lot of colors, but if you really look closely and think about it, their lighting is mostly white.

Second, on the topic of darkness and shadows - even if you are going for a "dark" map, the map should be pretty bright. Again, if you look at great "dark" maps on the Quake/HL engine, (pretty much the whole of Quake 1 for example), they are actually fairly bright, but just feel dark through the texturing and mood.

Of course, there are no hard and fast rules here, so use your judgment.



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Posted by Le Chief on Fri Jun 15th at 4:54pm 2007

Lol

Not all maps can have white lighting. Industrial themed maps usally have yellowish/orange lighting, same with some outdoors maps. Whenever I make a jungle/forest map I always try to add green lights, theres heaps. Some maps need light light blue lighting as the primary light source. Not all maps are suited to white lighting. However for that tip I would say find a primary lightsource colour (white, yellow, green, blue) and than add the colour effects.

And I just finshed a set of dark maps for reddawn, and I would say that dark maps are darker than bright maps with heaps of shadows and other cool stuff!!! Nuh I'm kidding .




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Posted by mazemaster on Fri Jun 15th at 6:26pm 2007

Look carefully at those "industrial" maps and you will probably see that the lighting is actually mostly white, and the "orange" you remember is just from a few smaller light sources.

[Edit] Here are some examples to check out:
Industrial sections of HL2 (eg: the levels where you are driving the boat)
Industrial sections of HL1 (eg: residue processing, blast pit, etc)
Pretty much every level in Quake 1
cs_industrywest
dm_swamplight
gasworks



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Posted by Le Chief on Sat Jun 16th at 7:31am 2007

Ok cool, I'll have a little looky and mabye I can post some examples.


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