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Posted by Raid3n on Thu Sep 11th at 3:22pm 2003

i need a bookshelf for my map, but there isn't one in the valve hammer prefabs. does anyone know where to get one?



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Posted by Mor7y on Thu Sep 11th at 4:23pm 2003

Prefab whore!!  No just kidding
But why not make one, instead of prefab?



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Posted by Johnny Beverage on Thu Sep 11th at 7:54pm 2003

random objects, modern shelves contain books, there is also a textures that start with like PFAB_BKS1A that are books. [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Thu Sep 11th at 10:55pm 2003

don't use prefabs...I'll beat you if you do...and you know I can [addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Thu Sep 11th at 11:06pm 2003

I think it is somewhat foolish to entirely dismiss prefabs as a useful addition to levels - yes, they may be overused by newbies and a lazy way out, but there are some excellently made (aesthetically and technically) prefabs to use in your maps!

However, I do agree too many prefabs spoil the broth - used in moderation and in the right situation they can inject some really interesting visual and playing points into a map. Double jeopardy really!





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Posted by Cash Car Star on Thu Sep 11th at 11:50pm 2003

? posted by Gwil

I think it is somewhat foolish to entirely dismiss prefabs as a useful addition to levels - yes, they may be overused by newbies and a lazy way out, but there are some excellently made (aesthetically and technically) prefabs to use in your maps!

However, I do agree too many prefabs spoil the broth - used in moderation and in the right situation they can inject some really interesting visual and playing points into a map. Double jeopardy really!

I think we should be able to agree, though, that a bookshelf is in the "make your own" category. You want some crazy platform with entities you don't know how to use? Use a prefab. You need a biplane and have no clue how to make it? Use a prefab. You need something that consists of just a few generically wood textured blocks? Spend the five seconds at the editor it takes to make it.





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Posted by Gorbachev on Fri Sep 12th at 12:00am 2003

I'll get ya some bookshelf textures...

 

and the comment about the beating is based on the fact that I know him in real life...and I'm sure he knows my anti-prefab sentiment.

[addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Fri Sep 12th at 12:08am 2003

? posted by Cash Car Star
? posted by Gwil

I think it is somewhat foolish to entirely dismiss prefabs as a useful addition to levels - yes, they may be overused by newbies and a lazy way out, but there are some excellently made (aesthetically and technically) prefabs to use in your maps!

However, I do agree too many prefabs spoil the broth - used in moderation and in the right situation they can inject some really interesting visual and playing points into a map. Double jeopardy really!

I think we should be able to agree, though, that a bookshelf is in the "make your own" category. You want some crazy platform with entities you don't know how to use? Use a prefab. You need a biplane and have no clue how to make it? Use a prefab. You need something that consists of just a few generically wood textured blocks? Spend the five seconds at the editor it takes to make it.

Fair point Cash, fair point I must say I was commenting in general on the prefab ethos, but yes - if youre making a bookshelf, do it yourself





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Posted by Raid3n on Fri Sep 12th at 9:49pm 2003

smiley yes i'm sure you can gorb...

i wanted to use a prefab because it will be more than just a bunch of shelves, i needed books on it, and i didn't know about the "bookshelf" textures which i am more likely to use seeing as making all the books myself would probably slow down the map..





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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Sep 12th at 10:03pm 2003

There are textures in the halflife wad that are supposed to look like a whole mess of books lined up. Just make one long block to be all the books.



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Posted by Myrk- on Fri Sep 12th at 10:33pm 2003

Prefabs are sometimes ok to use, mind you the fools who make them make them far too complex, or make them s**t. I always end out editing the prefab beyond recognition of the original... [addsig]




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