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Posted by Ferret on Fri Jul 30th at 6:53am 2004

did you upgrade your valve hammer editor? I know there were issues happening when people updated the hammer, older version rmf's got corrupted and crap.



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Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Jul 30th at 9:03pm 2004

? posted by Ferret
did you upgrade your valve hammer editor? I know there were issues happening when people updated the hammer, older version rmf's got corrupted and crap.

Heh. I really don't upgrade my version of WC (I'm still saying WC ) It took me like.... a year or so before I went from 2.1 to 3.3. So 3.3 is where I'll stay until I need to upgrade :

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Posted by ReNo on Sat Jul 31st at 8:33pm 2004

Didn't you feel foolish after waiting so long and depriving yourself of v3's useful additions? Doesn't it seem silly that you could be making the same mistake again? [addsig]



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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Jul 31st at 11:29pm 2004

? posted by ReNo
Didn't you feel foolish after waiting so long and depriving yourself of v3's useful additions? Doesn't it seem silly that you could be making the same mistake again?

What are you saying?

That VHE 3.5 beta is better in some way O_o

I don't have much intention on downloading another WC/VHE unless they put in something like, real time lighting

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Posted by ReNo on Sun Aug 1st at 12:28am 2004

They aren't exactly huge downloads, and 3.5 does add a few nice features such as model previews, pointfile display in the 3D window, and user selectable background colour for the 3D view.

http://collective.valve-erc.com/index.php?go=hammer_beta

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Posted by fishy on Sun Aug 1st at 12:47am 2004

i've not had to load a map to find a leak since i started using 3.5. every one was found, in the editor, at a fraction of the time that it would have taken if i hadn't upgraded.

and i cant even guess at how much time the model preview has saved me.

didn't know about the background colour though.





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Posted by ReNo on Sun Aug 1st at 1:51pm 2004

Come to think of it, you are even missing out on 3.4's improvements G.Ball! Sure most of them are reasonably small, but timed depth selection in the 3D view is very handy.

Fishy, having a crazy bright background colour such as pink makes finding leaks quite a bit easier too, its far more obvious to spot than the default black.

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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sun Aug 1st at 5:35pm 2004

I appreciate the suggestion, but I'm fine with 3.3 [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Sun Aug 1st at 5:59pm 2004

I don't get it, its not a big download, and it adds useful features - there is no reason NOT to get it! [addsig]



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Posted by Gorbachev on Sun Aug 1st at 6:03pm 2004

? posted by ReNo

Come to think of it, you are even missing out on 3.4's improvements G.Ball! Sure most of them are reasonably small, but timed depth selection in the 3D view is very handy.

Fishy, having a crazy bright background colour such as pink makes finding leaks quite a bit easier too, its far more obvious to spot than the default black.

Haha, mine is pink.

If you're stubborn enough to not want to download 3.4 even why would I trust that you'd do anything to fix your map problems Ball?

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Posted by $loth on Sun Aug 1st at 6:08pm 2004

Whats this pink background I hear about? [addsig]



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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sun Aug 1st at 6:14pm 2004

? posted by Gorbachev
? posted by ReNo

Come to think of it, you are even missing out on 3.4's improvements G.Ball! Sure most of them are reasonably small, but timed depth selection in the 3D view is very handy.

Fishy, having a crazy bright background colour such as pink makes finding leaks quite a bit easier too, its far more obvious to spot than the default black.

Haha, mine is pink.

If you're stubborn enough to not want to download 3.4 even why would I trust that you'd do anything to fix your map problems Ball?

I do fix my map problems.

I'm pretty careful with my mapping, so I usually don't run into real big humongus errors. Worst problems I have are generally problems that are "unforseen"... like having cordon bounds delete your map... hoo ha.

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Posted by ReNo on Sun Aug 1st at 6:26pm 2004

? posted by $loth
Whats this pink background I hear about?

What more information can you possibly need to know? You can change the background colour of the 3D view, which has been mentioned multiple times already.

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Posted by $loth on Sun Aug 1st at 6:31pm 2004

? posted by ReNo
? posted by $loth
Whats this pink background I hear about?

What more information can you possibly need to know? You can change the background colour of the 3D view, which has been mentioned multiple times already.

oops I should read more carefully.

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Posted by fishy on Sun Aug 1st at 11:23pm 2004

by the way, i still take my clothes down to the river and bash them off of big rocks. none of them new fangled washing machine gadgets for me.





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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Aug 2nd at 1:50am 2004

Maybe it's a little late, but there's something like GetDataBack to recover old files, you know ?
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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Aug 2nd at 6:34am 2004

? posted by G.Ballblue
? posted by Gorbachev
? posted by ReNo

Come to think of it, you are even missing out on 3.4's improvements G.Ball! Sure most of them are reasonably small, but timed depth selection in the 3D view is very handy.

Fishy, having a crazy bright background colour such as pink makes finding leaks quite a bit easier too, its far more obvious to spot than the default black.

Haha, mine is pink.

If you're stubborn enough to not want to download 3.4 even why would I trust that you'd do anything to fix your map problems Ball?

I do fix my map problems.

I'm pretty careful with my mapping, so I usually don't run into real big humongus errors. Worst problems I have are generally problems that are "unforseen"... like having cordon bounds delete your map... hoo ha.

You don't seem to realize what I'm saying though. It's not a question of mapping practices but using newer tools that were updated for reasons. The maps are far less prone to glitches in the 3.4 version and while 3.5 is a beta I've had 30+ maps run through it with no issue. It's the same deal with still using the old Quake tools...sure they run, but there are Zoner's and then Merl's and even Cagey's for certain bits...they are made for the game in its current form. There is now a different version of the game, and to use old toolsets and expect them to be fine is just...odd. By getting the latest of the fully tested Hammer and Compile tools you will be eliminating issues that may be unforseen to you but have been experienced by many others and were fixed. So you cannot complain that the error has happened because of your own fault of not getting a newer version that works just fine. It's like blaming Windows for getting Blaster when you had the update available for over a year and just didn't feel like getting the update. Sure it's unforseen to you, but there are updates for reasons.

While maybe this won't fix this particular issue, it's something to think about...

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Posted by Cassius on Mon Aug 2nd at 7:10am 2004

DO NOT USE THE .MAP FORMAT AHHHHHH

(if thats what you were using that is)




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Posted by Gorbachev on Mon Aug 2nd at 7:21am 2004

The only thing I've used the .map format is to recover cripple maps of others by using QuArK to open it, save, then open it in Hammer and then save to .rmf. [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Mon Aug 2nd at 9:23am 2004

I think G has something to hide... why else would you not DL the new hammers?

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