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Posted by crazyd on Thu Aug 5th at 4:09pm 2004

ok i made a map for half life and i dont know how to play it
can anybody help.





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Posted by ReNo on Thu Aug 5th at 4:21pm 2004

To turn a map you make in hammer into a map you can play in Half-Life, you need to compile it. There is a guide on how to set up the newest versions of hammer with Steam, which includes a short part on how to compile the map, that you can read here...

http://www.snarkpit.com/editing.php?page=tutorials&game=HL&id=59
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Posted by crazyd on Thu Aug 5th at 5:13pm 2004

what about on worldcraft cause that is what im using




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Posted by fraggard on Thu Aug 5th at 5:23pm 2004

Worldcraft is the outdated version of what is now called the Valve Hammer Editor. Get the latest VHE over at http://collective.valve-erc.com

This entire site is dedicated to helping newbies out at mapping. There are tutorials for all levels of experience... Search a bit and find what you want.





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Posted by crazyd on Thu Aug 5th at 8:20pm 2004

thank you so much




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Posted by ReNo on Thu Aug 5th at 8:22pm 2004

We do have our own files section here fraggard
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Aug 5th at 8:54pm 2004

And I'd like to add that the version they suggested has insanely long compile times

If you're new to mapping, stick wit hthe Worldcraft that came with HL. Not very powerful, but it has very fast compiles so you can get your hands dirty with mapping.

If you set worldcraft up properly, it should run HL when the map finishes compiling. If not, try this:

in the Command line (also known as RUN) type: c:SIERRAHalf-Lifehl.exe +map yourmapnamegoeshere and hl will turn on and play your map.

(Or your drive name)

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Posted by ReNo on Thu Aug 5th at 8:57pm 2004

No offence mate, but thats rubbish - have you even got the newest version yet? Compile times don't change based on the editor you use. They are based on how well you build your map, the compile tools, your system spec, and the amount of resources (memory) you have free on your computer at the time. Get the newest version of hammer, take advantage of its bug fixes, performance increases, and added features.
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Aug 5th at 10:24pm 2004

? posted by ReNo
No offence mate, but thats rubbish - have you even got the newest version yet? Compile times don't change based on the editor you use. They are based on how well you build your map, the compile tools, your system spec, and the amount of resources (memory) you have free on your computer at the time. Get the newest version of hammer, take advantage of its bug fixes, performance increases, and added features.

I doubt it's full rubish -- it might be that I have bad experiences with mapping compilers, but here's my experiences :

Map made with 2.1, using the ****Q**** tools

Compile amounted to 3 minutes. My mapping abilities weren't good, and the map was very very large -- and had a sky box. Every thing was set on full.

Earlier, with VHE 3.4, I made a map that amounted to roughly 1/8 of the one I made in 2.1 --- Using tools that came with VHE.

After 15 minutes of bogus compile, windows locked up and my resources shot up to about 50% -- I wound up restarting windows. I'm not trying to argue with you or start a fight, really I'm not, but that's the truth of my experiences with VHE and WC.

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Posted by Crono on Thu Aug 5th at 10:42pm 2004

You do realize that those compilers are terrible right?
I'm surprised they were able to use them to build the HL game ... they allow many things that you shouldn't be able to do (Like mapping outside of the grid as long as some part of the grouping is inside of the grid). [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu Aug 5th at 11:05pm 2004

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? posted by ReNo
No offence mate, but thats rubbish - have you even got the newest version yet? Compile times don't change based on the editor you use. They are based on how well you build your map, the compile tools, your system spec, and the amount of resources (memory) you have free on your computer at the time. Get the newest version of hammer, take advantage of its bug fixes, performance increases, and added features.

I doubt it's full rubish -- it might be that I have bad experiences with mapping compilers, but here's my experiences :

Map made with 2.1, using the ****Q**** tools

Compile amounted to 3 minutes. My mapping abilities weren't good, and the map was very very large -- and had a sky box. Every thing was set on full.

Earlier, with VHE 3.4, I made a map that amounted to roughly 1/8 of the one I made in 2.1 --- Using tools that came with VHE.

After 15 minutes of bogus compile, windows locked up and my resources shot up to about 50% -- I wound up restarting windows. I'm not trying to argue with you or start a fight, really I'm not, but that's the truth of my experiences with VHE and WC.



Sure sounds like a solid argument to me!




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Posted by fishy on Thu Aug 5th at 11:20pm 2004

i've already changed back to teh Q-tools





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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Thu Aug 5th at 11:22pm 2004

Hey, it's me half-dude ,

Do you just press f9 in notepad to compile or what?



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Posted by crazyd on Fri Aug 6th at 12:04am 2004

i made my map but when i log onto steam and try to pick my level its not there
what should i do???




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Posted by fishy on Fri Aug 6th at 12:08am 2004

what mod is it for?



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Posted by Forceflow on Fri Aug 6th at 12:17am 2004

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We do have our own files section here fraggard


Like VHE: Snarkpit Edition, too

http://snarkpit.com/pits/forceflow/vhesnarkpit.htm
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Aug 6th at 12:18am 2004

Sounds like it isn't your games maps folder. Also, make sure you have the bsp file there --- you play a bsp file, but you work and map off of rmf/map files.

Here's an example:

C:ValveSteamSteamappsyouremail@msn.comHalf-Lifevalvemaps

If its not in the valvemaps folder, then Half-Life won't see the bsp.

Alien, what do you mean by that??

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Posted by ReNo on Fri Aug 6th at 12:24am 2004

? posted by G.Ballblue

I doubt it's full rubish -- it might be that I have bad experiences with mapping compilers, but here's my experiences :

Map made with 2.1, using the ****Q**** tools

Compile amounted to 3 minutes. My mapping abilities weren't good, and the map was very very large -- and had a sky box. Every thing was set on full.

Earlier, with VHE 3.4, I made a map that amounted to roughly 1/8 of the one I made in 2.1 --- Using tools that came with VHE.

After 15 minutes of bogus compile, windows locked up and my resources shot up to about 50% -- I wound up restarting windows. I'm not trying to argue with you or start a fight, really I'm not, but that's the truth of my experiences with VHE and WC.

Well, for one, this isn't exactly a scientific comparison. In any experiment you are only meant to change one variable at a time, and yet you have changed many (the map, the compile tools, AND the editor...most likely the current state of your computer too), making any results essentially null and void.

Its akin to saying you shot a dog (your old map) with a BB gun (the Q tools) and it didn't die, then you got a pet mouse (your new smaller map) and tried shooting it with a .357 magnum (the tools that come with 3.4), making the mousecage (an unrelated variable - ie. the new map editor) far worse than the dog cage (worldcraft 2.1).

...or perhaps thats a poor comparison

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Posted by fishy on Fri Aug 6th at 12:26am 2004

nah. spot on mate.



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Posted by ReNo on Fri Aug 6th at 12:27am 2004

Well I changed it, so now it ALMOST is [addsig]




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