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Posted by Spartan on Fri Sep 10th at 8:58pm 2004

I am working on a DoD map and I saved the map as an RMF and then a MAP. I went to open up the MAP file and it said "1107321 solids have not been loaded due to errors", then it says and error has occured Hammer.exe will now close. I tried compiling the map from the RMF but in the compile log it says nothing was compiled because there were no solids. I have tried everything but can't seem to get it to work. HELP MEEEEE.



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Posted by fizscy46 on Fri Sep 10th at 9:34pm 2004

Lol, you're doomed to map loading errors forever! [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Fri Sep 10th at 10:14pm 2004

This isn't funny it is annoying and I can't create maps without it fixed. I have tried everything, and I mean everything. This is stupid and shouldn't be happening.



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Posted by fizscy46 on Fri Sep 10th at 10:20pm 2004

Reformat your computer, that's all I can suggest [addsig]



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Posted by fishy on Fri Sep 10th at 10:25pm 2004

1.1million solids. is that right? does your map really have that many brushes that can go wrong, or is this a decompiled bsp?





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Posted by Spartan on Fri Sep 10th at 11:44pm 2004

No I don't have that many solids it says that for some reason. (that was not sarcasm)

Also I just rewrote 0s on the hard drive 2 weeks ago and reinstalled everything. I don't know what is wrong but it's not fixing itself. I cannot even map unless this get fixed.





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Posted by fizscy46 on Sat Sep 11th at 1:30am 2004

Complete Reformat, or just OS Reinstall? [addsig]



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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Sep 11th at 2:01am 2004

? posted by fizscy46
Complete Reformat, or just OS Reinstall?

Dude, YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO SCREW YOUR HARD DRIVE JUST BECAUSE A MAP GOES WONKY.

Decide whether or not you're gonna work with rmf or maps before you map. If you wanna use a map file, then you should start with a map file, not an rmf.

Just try it

[addsig]



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Posted by fraggard on Sat Sep 11th at 2:15am 2004

? posted by Spartan 34
I am working on a DoD map and I saved the map as an RMF and then a MAP. I went to open up the MAP file and it said "1107321 solids have not been loaded due to errors", then it says and error has occured Hammer.exe will now close. I tried compiling the map from the RMF but in the compile log it says nothing was compiled because there were no solids. I have tried everything but can't seem to get it to work. HELP MEEEEE.

A few things

  • DON'T reformat your disk , reinstall windows, sacrifice your PC to cthulhu, etc. it's not worth it.
  • First off, try "Exporting" to .map, don't "Save as" .map. See if that makes a difference.
  • If nothing helps, reinstall your Editor (VHE, I'll assume). Get the 3.4 version, as well as the 3.5 beta. Try both individually. Make sure you don't lose your RMF in the process.
  • Don't work with a .map file. That's rubbish advice. Work with an RMF, because that's what VHE's designed to handle.
  • Does your level consist of a lot of carved solids? They could have fragmented into those millions (it's a slim, chance, but maybe..) cut down on the bad solids. Reconstruct them properly.




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Posted by Spartan on Sat Sep 11th at 2:28am 2004

  • First off, try "Exporting" to .map, don't "Save as" .map. See if that makes a difference.
  • If nothing helps, reinstall your Editor (VHE, I'll assume). Get the 3.4 version, as well as the 3.5 beta. Try both individually. Make sure you don't lose your RMF in the process.
  • Don't work with a .map file. That's rubbish advice. Work with an RMF, because that's what VHE's designed to handle.
  • Does your level consist of a lot of carved solids? They could have fragmented into those millions (it's a slim, chance, but maybe..) cut down on the bad solids. Reconstruct them properly.

    • I have done all those things. I always export to MAP. My level is fine. I even created a box map and it did the same thing for that. I always work with RMFs. I can't compile the map because the MAP removes all the solids when it is loaded into Hammer. I have tried compilintg from the RMF but it does the same thing.

    P.S. I am pissed off and you guys aren't helping.





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    Posted by Cassius on Sat Sep 11th at 2:36am 2004

    ? posted by fizscy46
    Lol, you're doomed to map loading errors forever!

    Golden advice. This is what the Snarkpit is all about.





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    Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Sep 11th at 3:03am 2004

    ? posted by Spartan 34

    P.S. I am pissed off and you guys aren't helping.

    Oh my God what ever WILL BECOME OF US?

    [addsig]



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    Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sat Sep 11th at 3:25am 2004

    ? posted by G.Ballblue
    ? posted by Spartan 34

    P.S. I am pissed off and you guys aren't helping.

    Oh my God what ever WILL BECOME OF US?

    Blue:

    stfu. I'm not joking. I have never seen you contribute in a useful fashion to the editing forum.

    Spartan:

    You cannot compile from the .rmf. The editor always exports to the .map file first. What you are saying is that the .map gets corrupted/erased whether you try to open it hammer or not, correct?

    I suggest that you try QeRadient I don't know if it will open .rmf or .dxf files, but it's worth a shot. it sounds to me as though your export feature is somehow completely borked. maybe some conflict with another program





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    Posted by fishy on Sat Sep 11th at 10:06am 2004

    ? posted by Spartan 34

    No I don't have that many solids it says that for some reason. (that was not sarcasm)

    the reason it says that, is because that's how many solids it counted and didn't want to draw.

    i also asked if this was a decompiled rmf you were working with. that wasn't sarcasm either, btw.

    the reason i asked this is because the 'good' decompiler will take a big cube shaped brush, and decompile it into six, 1 unit thick brushes. a 1unit thick brush for each original face. so using the decompiler on a big map can result in crazy numbers [like 1.1million] of solids being created. say an average of 8 vertex points per solid, and you've got hammer trying to draw over 8 million of them. i'm not surprised it crashed.

    or maybe, as you say the rmf is ok until you try to export it, you could zip it up and have someone try it on their comp? i'd give it a go.

    if you're not sure about trusting me with your work, then i'm sure there's some others here that you would trust who would be willig to take a look.





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    Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Sep 11th at 2:55pm 2004

    Wasn't there a question where the version of WC/VHE you were using would casue problems while using a .map file? I thought it was something like VHE 3.4 and up didn't like .map files... ? [addsig]



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    Posted by fishy on Sat Sep 11th at 3:23pm 2004

    ? posted by G.Ballblue
    Wasn't there a question where the version of WC/VHE you were using would casue problems while using a .map file? I thought it was something like VHE 3.4 and up didn't like .map files... ?

    no





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    Posted by Spartan on Sat Sep 11th at 3:38pm 2004

    You cannot compile from the .rmf. The editor always exports to the .map file first. What you are saying is that the .map gets corrupted/erased whether you try to open it hammer or not, correct?

    Yes that is exactly correct. This only happens with my Steam games. I am working on a DoD map and it keep getting the error when I open up its MAP file in Hammer. I do not get this error for my Half Life SP map when I open it up in Hammer. I have the disk for that so I am not using Steam for Half Life.





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    Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sat Sep 11th at 4:42pm 2004

    Try opening your DOD map as a HL map. If that works, try reconfiguring VHE so it's NOT using steam for DOD. As I think was said in your last topic there is absolutely no reason to bother with a steam config. I honestly don't see how this could make a difference though.



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    Posted by Spartan on Sat Sep 11th at 5:01pm 2004

    I've checked the code of the MAP file on notepad for anything supspicious but it all looks fine. Nothing wrong with the MAP file itself it is something with Hammer. This is bullcrap though. I lose so much mapping due to crap like this that isn't even my fault. All I want to do is map and its like the computer wants to piss me off and ruin my day.



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    Posted by Tracer Bullet on Sat Sep 11th at 8:06pm 2004

    If the .map is just fine you should be able to compile properly. Can you? If you can I'm very confused as to what your problem is.




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