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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Orpheus on Wed Nov 19th at 2:09pm 2003


no..

use HLCC to generate a batch file.

it will upon request.

edit the batchfile provided with the sparse command.

double-click the batch file and recompile.

when using HLCC to make said batchfile, it is not important to complete the compile to get it.

start HLCC, and immediately shut off the compile window..

the batchfile will be made anyways..

said file will be placed in the same folder as HLCC.

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 19th at 2:15pm 2003


thank you.....

i will now scurry back to my hole quietly contemplating the state of the universe....

Doc ...

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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Nov 19th at 2:17pm 2003


doc, i am the only real advocate to HLCC, why didn't you ask me sooner?

HLCC is old, but it is cunning in its simplicity.

people always underestimate its uses.. course you may have to cheat like the batchfile thing, but whatever works right ?

if you have more issues with HLCC, contact me.

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 19th at 2:25pm 2003


i appreciate it man.....like i said, this is the only time ive had to attempt this feature, and i was really suprised to see there was nothing about it in ALL the literature i read last night till 3 in the friggin morning with my eyes hurting sick from the flu and crabby and cussing at verc and other various sites trying not to swallow my pride and living up to my tenacious rep and.....and.... um....er....

you get the picture.....btw, even the batch file stuff i read didnt mention it... nor was there anything on the home page for this guy.....i found that irritating as hell tbh....

i even tried to draw excerpts from autocad batch files that might be applicable....to no avail....

thanx orph..... relinquishes sacrifice

Doc Brass...

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 19th at 3:28pm 2003


cant get it to work......GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...

i know im missing something small....its usually the case....

Doc B...."twitching"

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Orpheus on Wed Nov 19th at 3:39pm 2003


1) set up HLCC for a normal compile, be sure to tick box "generate batch file"

2) look in the folder with HLCC for a batch file named "HLCC"

3) right click on it and click "EDIT"

4) add the "-sparse" command to the last part of the HLRAD line.. be sure its spelled correctly

5) save

6) doubleclick on the HLCC batchfile..

it will work IF HLCC DID

hope this clarifies

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Hornpipe2 on Wed Nov 19th at 3:49pm 2003


? posted by Gorbachev
Personally I start with every brush being textured with NULL, then I texture all the visible parts one by one, it saves on every unnecessary face and allows for more detail.

That's exactly how I build mine, except I usually get fed up with it halfway through and just start making blocks out of the texture I want. In my custom WAD I have an UNTEX texture that I apply to everything first - it's brightly colored so I can see if I've forgotten to texture something in one of my levels.

The SPLA people will probably be pretty annoyed though if they try to interface with my walls when they're giant NULL blocks, but we'll see how that goes.

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Nov 19th at 3:52pm 2003


belay my last PM orph....i got er figured.... thanx man.....

note: DO NOT USE MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE OF HLCC IF YOU CANT KEEP TRACK OF YER f**kING DIRECTORIES..!!!

Doc Brass...

told ya it was something small.....but it hadnt occured to me it was a stupid mistake too....

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Hornpipe2 on Thu Nov 20th at 2:01am 2003


Why would you compile two maps at once anyways, unless you had a ridiculous amount of faith in the hardware capabilities of your computer? [addsig]



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Nov 20th at 3:08am 2003


have you never heard of experimentation?

or is there something else youd care to say to me?

Doc Brass...

and btw, i have a tremendous amount of faith in all my systems....any questions?

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Gorbachev on Thu Nov 20th at 7:18am 2003


Unless you are using the -low parameter it would probably be faster to do each compile seperately rather than together for multiple map compiles. [addsig]



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Nov 20th at 7:50am 2003


ok...this is getting a bit out of hand.....

dont think i dont appreciate the input gents, because i seriously really do, but.....

let me clarify what my problem was....if you read back thru the last few posts after i declared my problem solved, youll get this info from them....

? posted by www.snarkpit.com http:>Dr Brasso

belay my last PM orph....i got er figured.... thanx man.....

note: DO NOT USE MORE THAN ONE INSTANCE OF HLCC IF YOU CANT KEEP TRACK OF YER f**kING DIRECTORIES..!!!

Doc Brass...

told ya it was something small.....but it hadnt occured to me it was a stupid mistake too....

? posted by www.snarkpit.com http:>Hornpipe2

Why would you compile two maps at once anyways, unless you had a ridiculous amount of faith in the hardware capabilities of your computer?

at this point i began to get a bit....well....pissy, to say the least....

? posted by www.snarkpit.com http:>Dr Brasso

have you never heard of experimentation?

or is there something else youd care to say to me?

Doc Brass...

and btw, i have a tremendous amount of faith in all my systems....any questions?

? posted by www.snarkpit.com http:>Gorbachev

Unless you are using the -low parameter it would probably be faster to do each compile seperately rather than together for multiple map compiles.

now for the clarification, of which orpheus was somewhat aware, as a few other folks on this forum....

i run 5 different pcs, 4 of which are on a router, 3 of which have mapping materials , tools, etc on them....1 i use strictly for work, (occasionally 2)...

the problem occured when i had a second and third instance of HLCC on my one computer in particular, and forgot to change the dirrectory to a non experimentaion directory...follow?

in theory i can compile 4 maps at a time and still do my work.....but since i didnt really elaborate at the time, it was assumed for whatever reason, maybe my fault, that i was trying to shove all this s**t in at one time on one computer,compiling them all at once........not the case....i hope that clarified it, for my tormentors.......and set the record straight.....any questions?? ....christ, i think im gonna have a stroke......

no, im not a dumbass, i just happen to have too much s**t in my reach.....the woes of age and financial ...umm...happiness...

Doc Brass....f**king worn out, and still...

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Orpheus on Thu Nov 20th at 10:12am 2003


doc, breathe in, breathe out

its text bud, just text.. it sucks woefully at communication.

i am confused on the importance of why here, but tis no biggie.. its text.

i wish i had so many capable PC's to compile with..

remember, it did sorta sound like you were compiling them all on one PC at once..

would take a powerful pc indeed.

breathe in, breathe out.

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Gollum on Thu Nov 20th at 11:09am 2003


I must admit, it did sound to me too as though you were compiling the maps all on one PC. But that could be because I'm a presumptive asswipe who doesn't always read carefully before he judges

Anyway, distributed compiling across a network and/or separately over multiple PCs seems like a good idea, but I would fnd it damn confusing to set up the first time.

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Nov 20th at 2:12pm 2003


well, to be honest, i suppose it did.....and im not gonna sit here and tell you i havent tried this feat of daring before, with really crappy consequenses....ie, froze after about 30 seconds.... but in this case, im thinking thie "pissy point' comes from a different reason....trust me on that one guys....

....and i really do NOT want this tremendously helpful thread to go south...hell, ive learned quite a bit from this one indeed....hell, i didnt even know mikee was a regular contributor to verc collective till i started my foray into this problem.....so i will abstain from any further deliberation on THAT aspect of it.....

anyway.....maybe we can turn this into the...."all the little secrets about compiling out of the ordinary, but were afraid to ask" thread.....

yep...in all its glory, unless you become very wordy and technical and as fun to read as a wet fart, the english language can at times, well......suck bigtime. i am however grateful to my "pit brethren" for all their input...it is absolutely invaluable to me....if ya ever have any questions on autocad, or wanna build a house and some aspect is buggin' you.....gimme a holler....thats MY field of expertise......

damn i love this s**t....so....so.....cerebrally stimulating....***reaches for aspirin....

Doc Brass...

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by DocRock on Thu Nov 20th at 2:28pm 2003


In autocad, can you get a drawing where all the dimensions would be printed out with the dimensions drawn on the print out?

ya know, kinda like a blueprint





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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Nov 20th at 2:35pm 2003


most certainly....thats one of its major uses in an architectural setting

Doc B...

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Posted by DocRock on Thu Nov 20th at 3:02pm 2003


I sent ya a PM bud thanks



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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Gollum on Thu Nov 20th at 3:10pm 2003


? quote:
....hell, i didnt even know mikee was a regular contributor to verc collective till i started my foray into this problem.....

Funny, neither did I

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Re: max_patches hack
Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Nov 20th at 3:30pm 2003


well, Gollum...(if that is your real name... )...i read a rad tut involving the algorithms that had commentaries from "Gollum", and forgive me if i mislead you....it was a very succinct comment ....i "assumed" it was you....my bad...*callls imf force to uncover a well educated, yet obviously inferior imposter...

Doc Brass....

....and that was just one of a few....

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