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Posted by still_CJ on Sat Jan 10th at 4:37pm 2004

Grateful if someone could help out a newbie with some advice on packaging maps. This is a specific query, but also a request for a short tutorial I'd guess.

When you've finished your masterpiece and want to release it to the world, what should you ensure you've included, where should what you've included install to (assuming Steam), and what's the best release format to ensure it installs correctly. How do you ensure your carefully crafted textures get included (include a new WAD with the level presumabley, but where should it go)Etc. Etc.

All these are questions that are, I assume, trivial once you've done a few maps, but I havn't done any yet...

All advice appreciated.

Thanks,

CJ





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Posted by Wild Card on Sat Jan 10th at 4:43pm 2004

First of all, it depends for what mod the map is for. But for all mods, you'll need the actual map in .BSP format, you'll need a readme text (with usual copyrights and stuff) preferably in notepad (or wordpad can do).

If you are using any custom textures or skys, it would be best to mention that in the readme.

Also remember to wadinclude any custom textures.

What I do, is if I use custom textures, I create a new .WAD (with Wally) with all the textures I used so I only have to wadinclude 1 file.

Also attach a copy of the compile log (in the readme preferably).

A few sreens dosent hurt either.

Now all you need is to put all these files into a zip. You can use Winrar if you want but I dont recommend it cause no one uses it.

[addsig]



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Posted by matt on Sat Jan 10th at 5:27pm 2004

OK, WADs containing the textures for your map need to go in C:/Sierra/Half-life/valve folder and the maps need to go in C:/Sierra/Half-life/valve/maps and your skys go in the C:/Sierra/Half-life/valve/gfx/env folder. A good idea is to make a folder system for this on your desktop and then but your files in, then zip it up. What I mean is a folder called valve and then put in the subsecent sub folder and then put your maps and all its other files in them. [addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jan 10th at 5:49pm 2004

Make sure to use the option "remember directories" in Winzip, so when people extract it, skies and sounds and all other custom stuff will be placed correctly.



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Posted by Gwil on Sat Jan 10th at 5:51pm 2004

Don't forget to include a readme for legalness and promotion of your other work!

Heres the GlobalAssault template

http://www.snarkpit.com/pits/gwil/readme.txt

[addsig]



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Posted by Hornpipe2 on Sat Jan 10th at 10:11pm 2004

And create a .res file (using ResGen?) so that not only do the parts of your map come with the ZIP, but Half-life will also grab them from the server when someone connects to download your map. [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Sat Jan 10th at 10:21pm 2004

Is all of this still valid for Steam?

Anyways this is what you used to do:

First of all you need a readme (not called 'readme.txt'), saying who made the map and a bit about it, etc. Credit should also be given inside to authors of any custom textures, skies etc. you've used.

Then you need to include all those custom textures, sounds, skies, models etc. that you used in your map, if you did use any. You can just plonk them inside if you want, but it's best to place them into their correct /valve/ subdirectories within the ZIP (don't do what some people do and zip up a Sierra/Half-Life/ directory too because not everyone installs Half-Life there!). If you do use any of this custom stuff, include a .RES file (if there's not a tutorial on this site use Google) just for the hell of it, and an overview if it's for CS

And yes, do ZIP your map, RAR sucks. Don't bother with a compile log or screenshots either, people like smaller downloads





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Posted by Forceflow on Sat Jan 10th at 10:32pm 2004

I think most of the zipped maps are still valid for steam when it comes to extraction.

For example, most TFC maps have custom skies and custom sounds (for security handles and stuff). Zip's with those maps still place all those files in their right place, because basicly, the Steam TFC dir can have somehow the same content as your old Sierra/Half-Life/TFC dir.

So the zip file just creates those folders, for example sound/env/...

Same goes for CS.

And Lep ... 3 screenshots and a compile log will not take up more than 100 kb or something ... what's the difference between a 4.5 or 4.6 Mb download .... nothing, imho.





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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jan 10th at 10:56pm 2004

Why do you need screenshots when you have the map on your computer? The one thing that annoys me with maps is when the author tries to be too clever. One map I got tried to use some kind of installer which would only extract to c:\sierra. Others try to extract to a folder called halflife (instead of half-life), and others try (but fail) to be helpful in other ways. The structure of the zip should be so that if you extracted it to the desktop, the WAD files for the map would be on the desktop itself, the map in a folder called maps, and other files like sprites and sounds in the proper folders. This lets people put the map in any mod folder they like in any installation directory they like.



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Posted by SlayerA on Sun Jan 11th at 3:21am 2004

If you are releasing a Half-Life single player mod, make sure you delete the config.cfg file in your mod directory just before zipping. That way, HL brings in the players own configuration when the mod starts. Otherwise everyone who downloads it is forced to use your keyboard/joystick configuration.



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Posted by mazemaster on Sun Jan 11th at 6:48am 2004

To make sure that its compatible with steam, go less than the foldepth of the mod dir.

eg: your maps dir in winzip should be \maps, NOT valve\maps





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Posted by beer hunter on Sun Jan 11th at 10:04am 2004

? posted by Forceflow

And Lep ... 3 screenshots and a compile log will not take up more than 100 kb or something ... what's the difference between a 4.5 or 4.6 Mb download .... nothing, imho.

One of the more annoying and f**king stupid things i've DL'd is an archive that contained .bmp screenies that took up 60+% of the zip. If you've DL'd the map then you can see what it looks like for yourself, duh !

Most of the other comments sound sensible - if custom media (textures, models etc.) has been used then this'll have to be included in the archive together with the folder structure.

If the map only uses media thats already included with the mod then the minimum you have to put in the zip is the .bsp map file and a readme text file.





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Posted by Crono on Sun Jan 11th at 12:52pm 2004

I know no-one here is concerned with how this would appear in steam. But, I would imagine you'd want it to look the same or very close as in a WON version of HL, you know the whole satisfy everyone theory.

I'd suggest including both versions in your zip so it wouldn't matter which version the person who plays it is running.

If you have no idea how to set up the steam stuff, just ask how.
I had to figure all that crap out, not to mention I'm half-way in figuring out how to configure Hammer to use Steam. Right now it technically works, But I have to use a mod folder and crap, so it's not that great. There's an email in my profile, as long as you have a graphic editor of somesort (i.e. Photoshop) it'll be a breeze.

Or, the easiest way to figure it out is to look at Sven Co-ops 3.0 it covers everything. Obviously, you'll have to figure it all out your self, but the directory structure is the same, and so is placement of media stuff, such as the recourse folder.

But I'm probably making an ass out of myself, because I'm assuming mostly everyone already knows this. [addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Sun Jan 11th at 12:59pm 2004

? posted by beer hunter
? posted by Forceflow

And Lep ... 3 screenshots and a compile log will not take up more than 100 kb or something ... what's the difference between a 4.5 or 4.6 Mb download .... nothing, imho.

One of the more annoying and f**king stupid things i've DL'd is an archive that contained .bmp screenies that took up 60+% of the zip. If you've DL'd the map then you can see what it looks like for yourself, duh !

Of course, I meant some JPEG screenies (resized to 640*480 res).





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Posted by Gwil on Sun Jan 11th at 2:20pm 2004

? posted by Leperous

Is all of this still valid for Steam?

Anyways this is what you used to do:

First of all you need a readme (not called 'readme.txt'), saying who made the map and a bit about it, etc. Credit should also be given inside to authors of any custom textures, skies etc. you've used.

Then you need to include all those custom textures, sounds, skies, models etc. that you used in your map, if you did use any. You can just plonk them inside if you want, but it's best to place them into their correct /valve/ subdirectories within the ZIP (don't do what some people do and zip up a Sierra/Half-Life/ directory too because not everyone installs Half-Life there!). If you do use any of this custom stuff, include a .RES file (if there's not a tutorial on this site use Google) just for the hell of it, and an overview if it's for CS

And yes, do ZIP your map, RAR sucks. Don't bother with a compile log or screenshots either, people like smaller downloads

Mr Pedant, I assume people would have the common sense to call readme.txt mymap.txt Tsssk!

[addsig]



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Posted by still_CJ on Sun Jan 11th at 2:36pm 2004

Thanks folks.

I've ticked the 'Does this fix your problem' on those that set it up.

Cheers,

CJ





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Posted by matt on Sun Jan 11th at 3:46pm 2004

? posted by Gwil
? posted by Leperous

Is all of this still valid for Steam?

Anyways this is what you used to do:

First of all you need a readme (not called 'readme.txt'), saying who made the map and a bit about it, etc. Credit should also be given inside to authors of any custom textures, skies etc. you've used.

Then you need to include all those custom textures, sounds, skies, models etc. that you used in your map, if you did use any. You can just plonk them inside if you want, but it's best to place them into their correct /valve/ subdirectories within the ZIP (don't do what some people do and zip up a Sierra/Half-Life/ directory too because not everyone installs Half-Life there!). If you do use any of this custom stuff, include a .RES file (if there's not a tutorial on this site use Google) just for the hell of it, and an overview if it's for CS

And yes, do ZIP your map, RAR sucks. Don't bother with a compile log or screenshots either, people like smaller downloads

Mr Pedant, I assume people would have the common sense to call readme.txt mymap.txt Tsssk!

argh but only in CS and other mods where you get a map description when you connect to the server?

[addsig]



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Posted by scary_jeff on Sun Jan 11th at 11:03pm 2004

The point is to never call anything readme.txt because it will get overwritten by the next map that came with readme.txt. For CS, use 'mapname.txt' for the map objectives file and 'mapname_readme.txt' for the 'readme' file.




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