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Re: Textures galore
Posted by KingNic on Fri Jun 11th at 9:56pm 2004


Evening y'all.

Got sick of my lack of texturing abilities so i sat down today for about 2 hours of steady practise. The results are here:

http://hosted.gamesupply.co.uk/kingnic/misc/textures/

And yes I know the bricks are crap these are all hand drawn in Photoshop elements, no photo sources, filters or otherwise.

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Re: Textures galore
Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Jun 11th at 11:21pm 2004


Phffft. I can't even draw a convincing looking "Doom button" in wally.

Yippie Ki Yay!

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Re: Textures galore
Posted by Cassius on Fri Jun 11th at 11:43pm 2004


Alright. Most of these, the concrete especially, are pretty good for just starting, but I must give some tips.

1. Effective quantity is the soul of good texture packaging. Don't put in eighty thousand tiny variations of textures, especially when they are 256x256; keep texture memory limits in mind.

2. Don't use a big texture for what could be done in a small one. You could easily put those bricks or concrete tiles into a 32x32 texture, even 16x16; though this has definite implications about the amount of detail you put in these textures, keep this in mind for future ones. More importantly, never waste space, especially with a texture that is going to take up a lot of space, especially a vertical, in-your-face wall. Put grunge or at least detail into the bricks, put flaws in the tiles. And please, make 'darkglu' an actual material; as far as I can tell, currently it is flat dark gray with noise.

3. 'Bordering' areas of your texture - that is, making them stand out clearly by way of contrast, outline, etc. - should become your best friend. Because we're working with such small resolutions as Half-Life offers, any attempt for total realism should be abandoned; by making textures have unrealistically dramatic lighting and emphasis, it looks better than sacrificing detail for 'realism'.

4. Make your materials look accurate; you've used an almost identical base for both metal and concrete.

5. Color, dodge, burn, and photograph bases are your friends. To be perfectly honest, there is nothing exciting about these textures. No matter what some fools say, there is no grand skill and nobility in making scratch photoshop textures. Don't limit yourself.





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Re: Textures galore
Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Jun 12th at 1:03am 2004


? posted by Cassius

Alright. Most of these, the concrete especially, are pretty good for just starting, but I must give some tips.

1. Effective quantity is the soul of good texture packaging. Don't put in eighty thousand tiny variations of textures, especially when they are 256x256; keep texture memory limits in mind.

2. Don't use a big texture for what could be done in a small one. You could easily put those bricks or concrete tiles into a 32x32 texture, even 16x16; though this has definite implications about the amount of detail you put in these textures, keep this in mind for future ones. More importantly, never waste space, especially with a texture that is going to take up a lot of space, especially a vertical, in-your-face wall. Put grunge or at least detail into the bricks, put flaws in the tiles. And please, make 'darkglu' an actual material; as far as I can tell, currently it is flat dark gray with noise.

3. 'Bordering' areas of your texture - that is, making them stand out clearly by way of contrast, outline, etc. - should become your best friend. Because we're working with such small resolutions as Half-Life offers, any attempt for total realism should be abandoned; by making textures have unrealistically dramatic lighting and emphasis, it looks better than sacrificing detail for 'realism'.

4. Make your materials look accurate; you've used an almost identical base for both metal and concrete.

5. Color, dodge, burn, and photograph bases are your friends. To be perfectly honest, there is nothing exciting about these textures. No matter what some fools say, there is no grand skill and nobility in making scratch photoshop textures. Don't limit yourself.

Uhhhh from what I know, you want big textures. The smaller they are, the more work Vis, or QRad (dont remember which) has to do -- smaller textures = more leaf portals = higher chances of you encoutering the error TO MANY LEAF PORTALS ON FACE

Yippie Ki Yay!

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Re: Textures galore
Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Jun 12th at 1:06am 2004


Where did you get that amazing looking task bar?!??!?!

Yippie Ki Yay!

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Re: Textures galore
Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sat Jun 12th at 1:06am 2004


I think Cass knows what he's talking about.

That's a classy desktop too, I want it!




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Re: Textures galore
Posted by Cassius on Sat Jun 12th at 1:13am 2004


King, you use whatever size you need. You could have kept most of these textures at a quarter of the dimensions you gave them without losing detail.





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Re: Textures galore
Posted by mazemaster on Sat Jun 12th at 3:44am 2004


Isn't a glue texture defined as a greyish solid texture that you can put in the cracks where no other texture ought to go (and have it still look good)? If so, then I don't see how cassius's comment applies. [addsig]



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Re: Textures galore
Posted by Cassius on Sat Jun 12th at 3:55am 2004


Doesn't mean it should be empty.



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Re: Textures galore
Posted by Captain P on Sat Jun 12th at 9:23am 2004


For glue textures, small sizes will suffice as it's just that, glue for small not-so-important faces. Cassius, you mean it would be better if the glue texture represented a material type at least? Then I agree with that.

As for the textures, they look quite well taken the experience into account. Not too contrasted and no specific area attracts too much attention from the eye. Textures that have particular more-attractive spots make tiling very obvious. Although the bricks look somewhat too cartoony, a bit too clean.

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Re: Textures galore
Posted by KingNic on Sat Jun 12th at 9:41am 2004


Ok I've resized the textures that I can do (havent uploaded the new versions yet).

The darkglue texture was created to fill the role of a dark texture in poke646.wad which I've found myself using a LOT. Many wads don't have something like this, and I found it very useful for creating trims for pipes and stuff.

The taskbar is a styleXP theme called 'FADE'. It came with a big bunch of themes, unfortunatley I can't tell you much more

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