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Posted by Ferret on Tue Jun 22nd at 5:16am 2004

a work in progress. Working on the lips, nose and mostly the eyes and then I'll finish the ears and skin it.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jun 22nd at 5:27am 2004

I think you have the eyes too far up in his head. it makes it look inhuman. try extruding that braincase a little so he as room to think!

What method are you useing? subdivision surfaces? polys? NURBS?

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:16am 2004

? posted by Tracer Bullet

I think you have the eyes too far up in his head.

you ain't seen many pics of those particular indians have'ya TB?

i think he nailed it so far.. nice job ferret

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Posted by fraggard on Tue Jun 22nd at 10:14am 2004

The neck looks too narrow (though I suppose it's incomplete, but I see where it seems to start) And the lips look a shade too small be real...

Of course, I'm assuming you're going towards realistic, and not freaky-doom-monster-of-death





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Posted by mazemaster on Tue Jun 22nd at 10:27am 2004

Lets see the (non smoothed) mesh. [addsig]



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 12:28pm 2004

Inquiry:

when you say Maya, did you mean the indian, or the program?

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Posted by OtZman on Tue Jun 22nd at 12:40pm 2004

? posted by Orpheus

Inquiry:

when you say Maya, did you mean the indian, or the program?

None of them I think. I think he's talking about the modelling program Maya

Looks quite good, I agree with the others ^. By the way, is Maya a good program?

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Jun 22nd at 12:43pm 2004

The program Orph. I think it's great for a first head.




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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Jun 22nd at 12:45pm 2004

Looks good to me. But Tracer was right about the proportions, your eyes are half way up your head. I guess if you gave him some hair, it might be ok as it is



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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Tue Jun 22nd at 4:16pm 2004

? posted by OtZman
? posted by Orpheus

Inquiry:

when you say Maya, did you mean the indian, or the program?

None of them I think. I think he's talking about the modelling program Maya

Looks quite good, I agree with the others ^. By the way, is Maya a good program?

Yes, it's damn good. I've only dabbled a bit, because I don't have much time for it, but I was very impressed.

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 4:20pm 2004

in all seriousness, i think it looks very much like a native American as is..

add a black haired "top knot" some heavy black eyebrows, and a slight red tint, or brownish tint.. and you have your skin.

high cheekbones, and heavy brow ridges are a trademark of some Indian tribes..

the eyes are perfectly placed if you were designing this person..

/me likes

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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue Jun 22nd at 8:00pm 2004

If you are willing to consider the feedback of a lowly mapper:

I'm guessing this is for high-poly work, so you probably want to model out more of the muscles and structure of the face. Also note that the screen you gave obviously wasn't a side-profile, but I think the reference overlay is still applicable.

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Posted by Forceflow on Tue Jun 22nd at 8:26pm 2004

Very good job.

Like the others said, the thing that needs the most work is the nose. (Don't make him look like Michael Jackson ... poor model )

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 8:56pm 2004

? posted by Ferret




does no one but me see the similarity?

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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:04pm 2004

Nobody disagreed with you Orph, but that kid's eyes are still halfway up his head.

[edit] Can't measure the old man because it isn't a profile [/edit]

Nice modification CJ.. what program did you use for that? [I realise it's a 2D overlay]



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:11pm 2004

? posted by scary_jeff
Nice modification CJ.. what program did you use for that? [I realise it's a 2D overlay]

Umm... Photoshop?

Took a reference picture I had, pasted it over Ferret's render, set the Layer Render mode to "Multiply", and wrote stupid little notes next to it. Or did you mean something else?

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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:12pm 2004

? posted by scary_jeff
Nobody disagreed with you Orph, but that kid's eyes are still halfway up his head.

it wasn't an attempt to have a disagreement, it was to clarify my point.. and i see so little degree of difference between the skin, and the child its pointless to point out..

remember though, the child's face has not finished growing, and will eventually resemble the old mans at bottom.

to clarify Jeffery, no one disagreed, but i was however striving to get someone to agree

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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:19pm 2004

OK.

Yes Orph, the head as it stands could work well in an american indian model



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 22nd at 9:31pm 2004

? posted by scary_jeff
OK.

Yes Orph, the head as it stands could work well in an american indian model

you know jeff, without master ferret here, this discussion is purely hypothetical.. it only swung to indians, cause of my misinterpretation of the word "Maya"

for all we know, he may be making a composite of leps pics he has posted of himself over the years

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Posted by Ferret on Tue Jun 22nd at 10:27pm 2004

updated the picture. Did a little with the eye and played with the forehead. I also converted it back to polygons cause I like it better as a polygonal model. What do you think of it now?




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