The Dark Knight
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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 7th at 6:52am 2004


I was messing around today and I produced this:

Pencil

Then I scanned it in and finished up with some color [Photoshop]:

Color

Then I added some rain and its looking alright [More Photoshop]:

Rain

What do you guys think?
Suggestions? Comments?

Put them below.

(If you want me to change the links to the actual pictures, just mention it in the thread. I figured waiting for all the pictures to load would be really annoying, so.) [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Ferret on Wed Jul 7th at 6:56am 2004


rain is hard to cath on film or by the eye. Make it more blurry.



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 7th at 7:05am 2004


How about this:

Rain v.2

This looks a bit more misty though. [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by 2dmin on Wed Jul 7th at 7:57am 2004


It looks good, perhaps do as Ferret suggested and make the rain more streaky, and longer.
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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by $loth on Wed Jul 7th at 8:16am 2004


Yea, it sorta reminds me of the matrix.... [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 7th at 8:29am 2004


Been tweaking it.

Here's the latest one ... I also just realized I replicated Keanu Reaves lips ... weird. [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Finger on Wed Jul 7th at 4:47pm 2004


Your drawing was really nice, but it seems you lost the clearly defined values that made it work, once you colored it. It kinda freaked me out, because I just recently did a batman doodle that looked almost identical. Anyway.... lose the smudge tool, and define your values more. If your using photoshop, create an adjustment layer at the very top (layer, adjustment later, Hue and Saturation), and drop the saturation all the way, so that it turns grayscale. Now, you can switch this layer off and on, and be able to flip between grayscale/color. The values of color are what define an image, so when picking color make sure it works in grayscale too.



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Jul 7th at 4:51pm 2004


If you want to make the rain look more realistic, have the drops splashing on his shoulders and head etc. This makes it look like he's in the rain, instead of behind the rain. [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Wed Jul 7th at 9:16pm 2004


Worked on it some more

By the way, I've barely smudged anything, the entire thing is mostly airbrushed.

I took out the rain, so people would stop commenting on it alone. [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Kage_Prototype on Wed Jul 7th at 9:19pm 2004


Meh, I liked the rain...

Looks good either way. [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Forceflow on Wed Jul 7th at 10:02pm 2004


That's right, good job.
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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Myrk- on Thu Jul 8th at 10:56am 2004


The latest coloured one looks kinda cool. The pencil one looks awesome. The others (no offence) look like crap Though you've turned that crap into something good, good work! [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by ReNo on Thu Jul 8th at 1:29pm 2004


The pencil one is miles better than the coloured ones in my opinion, and the newest one seems much too dark to me.
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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Skeletor on Thu Jul 8th at 7:50pm 2004


Rain doesn't usually fall from directly above, you have to take into consideration wind, etc. [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Finger on Thu Jul 8th at 9:27pm 2004


Crono, as stated before, your pencil sketch is very, very nice. Very good lines, good sense of form and loose but clean shading. The color rendition loses the depth that your sketch has. Simply put, jumping from pencil/grayscale to color is quite a challenge, and takes some studying, experimenting, and lots of practice.

The first thing that people assume when using color, is that you use white to lighten the base color, and black to darken it. What this does, is leave you with muddy, gray colors that kill the hue of your base color. The important thing to keep in mind, at first, is that a colors VALUE is the most important thing in defining form. By this I mean, if you convert it to grayscale, where does it fall in the spectrum. If you have the values correct, you can use whatever colors you want, and the form will still be readable.

What I would do, is before you start painting, work out the base color scheme. If it's blue, develop a gradient of 4 blues from darkest blue, to lightest blue. Stick with these 4 gradients, and build the form of the object. Then, once the values are set, and the form works, work on blending colors adding details/texture, etc. Very last step should be adding the extreme highlights and shadows: white, and black. Be careful with these, and use them sparingly.

I had some fun with this image to try and illustrate what I'm saying here. Hope this helps.





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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Thu Jul 8th at 11:18pm 2004


I think the pencil sketch is s**t. So, I'm not seeing what you guys think is to great about it past the sharp shadows.

I actually muddied the colors on purpose, and again, I didn't smudge anything, it's all air brush (if you notice, the mouth is a completly different shape in the colored versions.

And yes, I see what you're saying, Finger.

I'm not done with it, obviously, but, I just need to smooth out the color transitions on his cowl and the visible parts of his cape.

And if the last one is too dark for you to see, its your monitor, I suppose I can make a brighter one, so you can see what it looks like.

Anyway, keep them coming, and don't be offended if I don't take everyones comments into consideration [addsig]




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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Finger on Fri Jul 9th at 12:58am 2004


Np Crono. Just trying to give some perspective that has helped me in my attempts at understanding color....no pressure to change previous pics, just food for thought.

You know, I've never really used the airbrush tool. (buries head in photoshop again)





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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Crono on Fri Jul 9th at 6:46am 2004


You should, its a magnificent thing. [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Jul 9th at 5:10pm 2004


Looks like batman [addsig]



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Re: The Dark Knight
Posted by Leperous on Fri Jul 9th at 6:13pm 2004


No, really?! Now you mention it, the evil French moustache does give it away




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