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Posted by ReNo on Sat Nov 27th at 12:01am 2004


I've been interested in anime for a while now, and although I don't read manga, I do like the art style a lot. I had to do some artwork for my design ideas for uni and sort of enjoyed doing some character drawing, so I've decided to give a serious effort to improve at it. Here is my first proper effort at drawing a manga style girl...



I'm fairly happy with how she turned out, though its far from perfect. The materials I'm working with could be nicer too - lined paper, a s**tty general purpose pencil, and a desk already crammed up with computer stuff. Oh well, it will do for the mean time Anybody else draw anime style characters, and if so, got any tips for me or work you care you care to share with the pit?
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Posted by Crono on Sat Nov 27th at 12:05am 2004


There's actually specific rules to drawing anime characters. They have 'line-up' rules the same way real-life drawings do. They're just different.

Rather then starting with an oval you start with a circle. Then a triangle bineath that, the lower cirle line becomes the eye line.

I used to have a tutorial somewhere.

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Posted by ReNo on Sat Nov 27th at 12:10am 2004


Yeah, to be honest, though I was going for an anime style, it came out more like a semi-realistic cartoon style. I'm gonna pick up a book for/after christmas on drawing manga characters that should hopefully help me nail the style a bit better. I know that the other art thread at the moment was discussing this, but would you recommend a tablet for this sort of work or just drawing by pen and paper?
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Posted by Crono on Sat Nov 27th at 12:27am 2004


To be honest if you're using a tablet to draw period it should be the exact same as drawing on paper. You can even place a piece of paper down and get thicker pen tips so it feels like a pencil. You just have to get used to not looking at the paper. The reason why I suggested bigger sizes is that the size of the tablet drawing area is NOT proportional to the size of your drawing. Meaning, the bigger the tablet, the better your detail will be (of course you zoom in and such, it's just annoying).

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Posted by OtZman on Sat Nov 27th at 12:28am 2004


I've tried to draw manga a few times. Your drawing looks much better though, especially the hair.

Take a look here:
http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial/tutorial.html
http://www.inet.ca/~stephenw/manga.html

well, just google
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Nov 27th at 12:35am 2004


I'd suggest, Reno, that you try drawing girls to begin with (and not for perverted reasons -- I'm talking art here). I found that manga girls are easier to draw than men -- with girls, you can get more of the proportions wrong/misaligned, and it still looks alright. With me, everything is generally oversized a little.

One other thing: The eyes. Eyes generally aren't straight black (occasionally they are, or if its a "realistic" drawing, but I myself don't draw like that ) I have some manga girls hung up on my wall, lemme see if I can get my mom off of her dell to let me scan them in....

*will be right back*

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Posted by Crono on Sat Nov 27th at 12:36am 2004


That first link is the exact tutorial I was talking about. But when I saw it it was on Jullie Dillon's site. [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Sat Nov 27th at 12:47am 2004


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...and not for perverted reasons...


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...I have some manga girls hung up on my wall


Not for perverted reasons eh? On a more serious note, I am sticking to drawing girls at the moment as personally I find it more fun. For perverted reasons? Probably!
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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sat Nov 27th at 12:47am 2004


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With me, everything is generally oversized a little.



Pervert.




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Posted by Spartan on Sat Nov 27th at 12:54am 2004


That looks like the woman off of that one Bungie game. Can't remember it right now.



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Posted by Spartan on Sat Nov 27th at 12:55am 2004


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Posted by ReNo on Sat Nov 27th at 1:00am 2004


Thats because I nabbed her hair - I couldn't get it looking right at all so I took hers and toned it down a bit. Can't remember her name, but the game was called Oni if you are still wondering

While on the topic of bungie, go read their interview with the Red vs. Blue guys and download the video linked at the end that they made for the Halo 2 launch party, wonderful as usual!
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Nov 27th at 1:06am 2004


Here Reno, sorry about the lame scans

mangagirl1.jpg

First drawing.

mangagirl2.jpg

Second drawing (lame scan, sorry)

Enjoy

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Posted by ReNo on Sat Nov 27th at 1:09am 2004


I like the head in the second picture - the expression, eyes and hair work really nicely together. I think you should work on proportion a bit though, as your necks are too long and thin and your shoulders too round and undefined. Good job on the eyes though, I'll definately need to try and improve mine.
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Posted by G.Ballblue on Sat Nov 27th at 3:18am 2004


? quoting TwoKnives

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With me, everything is generally oversized a little.



Pervert.

Typo "With men, ..."

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Posted by Spartan on Sat Nov 27th at 3:27am 2004


? quoting G.Ballblue
? quoting TwoKnives

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With me, everything is generally oversized a little.



Pervert.

Typo "With men, ..."

Lol, nice on G.Ball. That was hilarious.





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Posted by Finger on Sat Nov 27th at 6:32am 2004


Cool to see you drawing, Reno! I think your first attempt was great, and I'm sure you will hone your skills if you keep practicing. I have never really been drawn to anime (too old?). I should really take the time to look for the cream of the crop anime, I'm sure I would love it if I paid more attention.

As for the tablet....DO IT! You know how I love Wacom. You wont regret it. There is something to be said for learning with the ole pencil and paper. Some special quality that is unnatainable with digital art.... BUT, drawing on the pc, is just sooo forgiving, limitless, cheap, efficient.

Anyway... keep it up!





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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Sat Nov 27th at 6:59am 2004


I don't think a tablet helps as much as some people would believe; if you don't already have a strong art knowledge/foundation before you get a tablet, you still won't have one after either. In other words, it's not some magical solution to your problems.

That being said, I love my tablet! I can't imagine life without one.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Nov 27th at 11:00am 2004


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...and not for perverted reasons...


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...I have some manga girls hung up on my wall



Again, with this fixation on gender.. its not gay to express a certain kind of affection for the same gender, and its definitely not taboo or perverted to express a desire for the opposite sex.

geez, i cannot help but wonder, if all this gay rights s**t never happened, would we worry about distinctions such as this.

perverted has nothing to do with the opposite sex, not even where age is concerned. perverted is methodology. as in, you have a feather still embedded in your anus after you finish, or the whip is stuck between your toes after you fall asleep.

all this compunction to distinguish yourselves away from the stigma of sex is OTT guys. posting it draws attention to you, it doesn't push it away. you might as well wave a flag and proclaim "I HAVE ISSUES"

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Posted by Spartan on Sat Nov 27th at 3:26pm 2004


? quoting Orpheus

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...and not for perverted reasons...


? quote:
...I have some manga girls hung up on my wall



Again, with this fixation on gender.. its not gay to express a certain kind of affection for the same gender, and its definitely not taboo or perverted to express a desire for the opposite sex.

geez, i cannot help but wonder, if all this gay rights s**t never happened, would we worry about distinctions such as this.

perverted has nothing to do with the opposite sex, not even where age is concerned. perverted is methodology. as in, you have a feather still embedded in your anus after you finish, or the whip is stuck between your toes after you fall asleep.

all this compunction to distinguish yourselves away from the stigma of sex is OTT guys. posting it draws attention to you, it doesn't push it away. you might as well wave a flag and proclaim "I HAVE ISSUES"

Is there something you want to talk about Orph? Come just let it out, we're here to listen.






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