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Posted by Spartan on Mon Nov 29th at 12:12am 2004

I found this pic online and I was wondering what the artist used to color the pic. It looks like water color but I wasn't sure if this exact coloring job could also be done in PSP with a tablet. I'm not talking about making it just one color either, notice the the slight difference in yellow he used for shading.





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Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 29th at 4:03am 2004

If it was done digitally, probably painter (which simulates pretty much every physical art tool imaginable). [addsig]



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Posted by Mephs on Mon Nov 29th at 1:25pm 2004

Looks like a watercolour to me, but if it is, its either by someone quite accomplished. But with all these new fangled computers (I think thats what they're called) You can never really tell. Point is, its quite a good job either/or. Just out of curiousity, how many people in snarkpit would ever work in watercolours.

I haven't done any art in quite a while, I'm thinking of painting again (and obviously getting better).

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Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 29th at 5:51pm 2004

? quoting Mephs
Looks like a watercolour to me, but if it is, its either by someone quite accomplished. But with all these new fangled computers (I think thats what they're called) You can never really tell. Point is, its quite a good job either/or. Just out of curiousity, how many people in snarkpit would ever work in watercolours.

I haven't done any art in quite a while, I'm thinking of painting again (and obviously getting better).

I'd use arcrillic, it dries faster and has the same overall effect.

Not to mention the person who painted that doesn't know how to use watercolors (No offense to them, it still looks cool)

It's too saturated and they didn't outline or remove the outer lines of the drawing. You can also see they didn't use enough paint.

This is what a good water color looks like:


Don't feel bad though, That's Alex Ross' ... the watercolor God. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Mon Nov 29th at 7:23pm 2004

I hate using watercolors; they are just too difficult to use. I end up having paint all over the place. I don't see how some of these artists get it to look so good. If I could get the same water color effect on a computer I'd go with the computer. [addsig]



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Posted by Naklajat on Mon Nov 29th at 8:48pm 2004

word, spartan. i never finish any artwork because it never comes out like i want it to(especially watercolor). if i had a program that could emulate art tools i might actually finish something(ctrl+z is your friend). i would also need a tablet and possibly a scanner, though... im broke. i would definitely draw and "paint" more, though... it might be something i invest in in the future.

btw, the first pic looks kinda like metal gear solid art, and the second looks like a photograph except for the joker's exaggerated features and the shadows on the womans right leg. i believe ive seen some of alex ross' work, could be thinking of a different artist though... one jumps out from memory in particular: a bunch of reflective pots and pans in a pile, all with beautifully(and quite realistically) distorted reflections. it inspired me to try watercolor, though i was never any good at it, especially compared to the master artists whom i always seem to compare my own work to... only to end up self-criticizing unproductively... oh well, at least im always willing to give it another shot [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Mon Nov 29th at 9:19pm 2004

/hopes you didn't find this on a "casual" browse of furry websites



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Posted by Spartan on Mon Nov 29th at 9:30pm 2004

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/hopes you didn't find this on a "casual" browse of furry websites

Actually I found it through a search of an artist I was looking for. I liked his work. I never even new there was a genre of drawing called "furry" before I came upon that site (http://www.snarkpit.com/forums.php?forum=4&topic=2551&4) a few days ago. The art I had seen was... well you know. I guess we all have different tastes in art because there were a lot of pictures that I liked. I'm not talking about the super perveted ones either.

On another note that water color picture of the joker is really good. While I hate everything batman I do like how good the picture looks.

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Posted by Adam Hawkins on Mon Nov 29th at 9:35pm 2004

Methinks Leperous has been watching too much Bravo... [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Mon Nov 29th at 9:57pm 2004

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/farp/theart/assafpsp/assafpsp.html

I was searching through the FARP tutorials and came upon this. I love FARP.

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Posted by Spartan on Mon Nov 29th at 11:36pm 2004

Holy crap read that tutorial I posted. The guy colored the entire picture using a mouse and PSP 6. [addsig]



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Posted by ReNo on Tue Nov 30th at 12:02am 2004

No offence to the tutorial or its writer, but personally I really don't like that picture.
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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Nov 30th at 12:17am 2004

I'm pretty good at drawing unnatural and disproportioned people, think I should write a tutorial for that site?

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Posted by Spartan on Tue Nov 30th at 12:29am 2004

? quoting ReNo
No offence to the tutorial or its writer, but personally I really don't like that picture.

You don't have to like the picture, that wasn't the point of the tutorial. It was just to show how well you can paint a sketch using PSP without even using a tablet. The same technique could be used with pastels and paints.

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Posted by Finger on Tue Nov 30th at 4:17am 2004

The medium of art is not nearly as the important as the fundamentals of creating the illusion of volume, either with lines, or tonality. Any medium that can give you a gradient within a set hue, or a full spectrum of colors and the ability to paint at a super high resolution, can be used to mimic traditional mediums. Hell.... a computer monitor is only a 'canvas' with hundreds of thousands of tiny points of color, that change rapidly.

The first picture looks like a pencil sketch, brought to the pc and done over digitally, using different layers/modes to retain the initial sketch, while using a smudgy brush to give some shading/tone. It's hard to say.. the wash definately looks digital to me, as I dont see any real brush strokes, but do see alot of 'smudged' areas that don't really feel like true watercolor. Hard to tell with such a low res pic.

If you really want to be impressed with digital painting, check this s**t out

www.goodbrush.com

This guy both blends the lines between digital and traditional painting, and gives digital it's own unique voice. Truly inspiring stuff!





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Posted by Finger on Tue Nov 30th at 4:21am 2004

Ahhh screw it, I may as well pimp my own stuff too. Although, this one is 'balls', compared to goodbrush.





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Posted by Crono on Tue Nov 30th at 4:23am 2004

Spartan, when you use watercolors you have to layer the paint. You begin with blacks and shadows (usually easier) and paint (with PAINT, you don't mix it with water). You then let it dry. and go in with mid tones and such. The entire point is, a good watercolor painting will take someone who knows what they're doing at least 12 hours (for a small painting) just to get the painting correct (or nice).

Seriously, it takes years, if not decades, to become good at painting, in particular watercolor painting. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Tue Nov 30th at 10:53am 2004

? quoting Crono
Spartan, when you use watercolors you have to layer the paint. You begin with blacks and shadows (usually easier) and paint (with PAINT, you don't mix it with water). You then let it dry. and go in with mid tones and such. The entire point is, a good watercolor painting will take someone who knows what they're doing at least 12 hours (for a small painting) just to get the painting correct (or nice).

Seriously, it takes years, if not decades, to become good at painting, in particular watercolor painting.

I'm not completely ingnorant on how to use them. I just said I sucked at using them.

P.S. nice sketch Finger

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Posted by Neural Scan on Tue Nov 30th at 12:33pm 2004

Watercolours aren't my favourite either :/

I disagree with how there is a 'right' way of using a certain medium. If it looks good, that's what matters, I would never criticise on how someone used the paint in the wrong way if it was a decent painting.

Edit: I guess it all depends on what kind of art it is

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Posted by Foxpup on Thu Dec 16th at 3:36am 2004

If you want to get a watercolour look without the effort, use Faber-Castell watercolour pencils. I've got 200 of 'em, and they're just awesome.

I'd do my "updated" avatar in watercolour pencil, but I've also got a CorelDRAW 3D modelling package with RDI ray tracer. Look AMAZING, but it's not the world's easiest tool... [addsig]




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