Nice thoughts, pervert!

I'll try to make the leggs a little better so you dont f**k it up with your feedback!

Also I'm making a shoulderpad to the orc to the left... My friend thought he looked a little naked

Anything else??

Oh and thx by the way

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Did a little change on wolfrider, changed the face of the closest orc and added armor on his shoulder.

Thx Orpheus.

Shall I keep sending updates? Or is it just boring?

I just want some feedback that colud improve my "skill"... if I have any that is

Ok

Do you know any "real" art-forum?

Obviously I'll be here at snarkpit too, (since mapping is quite fun and snarkpit.com rules ), but maybe I would get more feedback on my pictures at an art-forum.

Oh and thx by the way

Both! And be as hard as you like... Tell me all the flaws.. well not all.. that would be spamming , but the "worst", if you know what I mean.

Ok, I'll give you some feedback on these paintings, since it's sunday and I don't plan on moving from this chair for the whole afternoon, and I'm bored

First of all, I think you have a very good beginners grasp of shading and defining 3d shapes with values. I don't know how long you have been doing this, but regardless..I see tons of potential in these drawings. So, that said, here are the general 'flaws' or whatever, that pop out at me right away.

The major 4 are:

1. Basic anatomy of your characters is off in some places. Spend some time with anatomy books, before you draw. Try to understand what muscles you are drawing, and what they connect to. If you have a firm grasp of the foundations of how muscles work, you can see what feels right in different situations (should the muscle be tensed when he stands like this, should it bulge..etc).

2. Not looking the big picture, when defining your major shapes. In other words, paying attention to defining the details, without working out the big shapes first.

3. Too much black and white, to define your shapes. This is the first big hurdle when learning to use color... Basically, you only want to use black and white for the MOST extreme highlights, and shadows, and that is very rarely.. maybe only a couple of tiny spots in an image, to anchor it, or a highlight that really makes it pop. Other than that, try to vary the value of the color, without adding white or black. This way, you can keep the vibrance of your colors, and not kill them or flatten them with white/black. It's a big step to get over, but once you do, your paintings will be remarkably better.

3. Presentation. Just having these characters on the right background would make them look better. There is a stark contrast with the white background, which makes them seem cut-out, and flat.

Ok, since I have opened this can of worms and you may now have more questions than you did before, trying to understand what I'm babbling on about. I will see if I can do the famous 'paintover' and illustrate what I'm going on about.

last minute comment:

the orc on the right, he looks to stiff armed, as if the axe is way to heavy.. move his elbows away from his sides a bit.. he looks like he is struggling with the effort.

/ 2 cents.

you know, someday i am going to like you a lot.

Hehehehehe an Orc that looks like the bar guy from "Cheers" hehe

Hey your year of creation is wrong now