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Posted by Kanniball on Sun Dec 5th at 12:15pm 2004

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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Dec 5th at 2:03pm 2004

very nice.

*sets up candles to burn*

/me prepares to sing, but notices glares from other pit members.

*ahem*

very nice indeed.

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sun Dec 5th at 2:26pm 2004

I'm not very artistically inclined, which is why I refrained from commenting on your other picture. I can pick out a couple of things though, which I feel may need more work. The sword needs to be more defined. I realise the style you're using doesn't lend itself to well-defined objects, but the edges look too rough. The hood or helmet on his head lacks any real depth, and the texture seems strange (which is why I can't determine why it's a hood or helmet). The left side of his collar doesn't look near as nice as his right.

The way the eyes are done, and the way the armour fades into black both look excellent. This is a hundred times better than anything I could create, so my criticisms don't hold much weight.




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Posted by Kanniball on Sun Dec 5th at 7:10pm 2004

This was acctully my first picture ever with photoshop but thanx for the nice feedback.

Oh and I totally agree with you on all your points, but as I said this was the first, and I would like to keep it like it was, so I can look back at it

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Posted by Kanniball on Tue Dec 7th at 1:40pm 2004

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Heres another one of my pictures...

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Posted by ReNo on Tue Dec 7th at 1:51pm 2004

A fan of fantasy art I guess I really like that new picture, particularly the dragon's head which I think is shaded really nicely and has a real sense of depth. Teeth look a bit dodgy though - I'd have imagined a dragon might have some more significant ones in there somewhere! The fireball doesn't look bad but could be better - unfortunately I'm not artistic enough to suggest how. Very good job though, pretty impressive picture!
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Posted by Kanniball on Tue Dec 7th at 2:00pm 2004

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Thx Reno. Actually my friend said the fire looks like vanilla or something... but hey, fire is so damn hard to make convincing! Both Pepper and Grimloch made a very good job though, especially Grimlock

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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Dec 7th at 5:04pm 2004

Tha flames lack depth and look very two-dimesnional when comapred with the dragons head. The mans position on the dragons back is a little strange, as someone sitting the way he is would usually turn their head and turn their torso only slightly if at all.




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Posted by ReNo on Tue Dec 7th at 5:29pm 2004

The spear doesn't look a fitting weapon for him either - a demon thing of his stature should surely have something a bit more ornate! [addsig]



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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Tue Dec 7th at 7:55pm 2004

When doing flames search for something you can use as a reference. Also the jaw is too short. And the wings could be little more detailed. Nevertheless great work. For drawing tutorials and quality fantasy art visit http://www.elfwood.com. Check out FARP on that site. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Tue Dec 7th at 10:16pm 2004

You might want to creat a light source on your dragon's face that is coming from the fire. It will make it look awesome if you do that. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Tue Dec 7th at 10:30pm 2004

? quoting Spartan 34
You might want to creat a light source on your dragon's face that is coming from the fire. It will make it look awesome if you do that.


Actually, by the amount of fire that's there and the length of the dragons jaws, it wouldn't illuminate the face very much, if at all. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Tue Dec 7th at 11:02pm 2004

I just want to note some human proportions here instead of starting a new thread. I've done some reading and measuring myself and these are proportions anybody can use when drawing humans or anthro.

1) Body is about 7 heads high from the bottom of the feet to the top of the shoulders.

2) Waiste is slightly less wide than shoulders

3) arms are shorter than legs

4) when standing up finger tips reach down past the waiste and about half way to the knees

5) hands are shorter than feet

6) the upper part of the arm is the same length as the lower part of the arm.

7) the upper part of the leg is the same length as the lower part of the leg.

P.S. If you see any proportional errors in these notes let me know.

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Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 8th at 3:54am 2004

? quoting Spartan 34
I just want to note some human proportions here instead of starting a new thread. I've done some reading and measuring myself and these are proportions anybody can use when drawing humans or anthro.



1) Body is about 7 heads high from the bottom of the feet to the top of the shoulders.

2) Waiste is slightly less wide than shoulders

3) arms are shorter than legs

4) when standing up finger tips reach down past the waiste and about half way to the knees

5) hands are shorter than feet

6) the upper part of the arm is the same length as the lower part of the arm.

7) the upper part of the leg is the same length as the lower part of the leg.



P.S. If you see any proportional errors in these notes let me know.

Yeah, those are superhero proportions, a normal person is only about 5 heads tall.

Face:
The face has an eye line half way between top and bottom. Nose line is half way between the eye line and bottom.
Mouth line is half way between nose line and bottom.
Hair line is a little above half way between top and eye line.
The face is vertically cut in five equal pieces.
Two "chunks" are the eyes (figure out which ones).
The middle of the eye (iris) lines up with the outer corners of the mouth.
The inner edge of the eyes line up with the outer nostrils of the nose.
The top of the ears are at the same height as the eye brows (Or slightly above, some people look funny, now you know why).

Hands:
Wrists lay slightly below waste line.
The size of a hand is about the same size as the face (Fingers and all).
There are THREE muscle areas in the hand (Not including fingers).

Other Crap:
The width of shoulders is about 1-1.5 head on each side (Man). 3/4s-1 head on each side (Woman).

Just to name some more. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Wed Dec 8th at 10:41am 2004

Actually the body is more like 6 to 6 1/2 heads high. 7 head is a little high but five is too short. For some f**ked up reason though sometimes you can get a good looking figure with 5 heads high and sometimes 7 heads. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Wed Dec 8th at 7:27pm 2004

Well I did some more measuring and read up on human proportions some more and it seems that the average is 5 heads high. Also I'd like to state that for males the shoulders are about 2 heads wide and for females the shoulders are about 1.5 heads wide. [addsig]



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Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 8th at 7:31pm 2004

? quoting Spartan 34
Well I did some more measuring and read up on human proportions some more and it seems that the average is 5 heads high. Also I'd like to state that for males the shoulders are about 2 heads wide and for females the shoulders are about 1.5 heads wide.


Right, I couldn't remember which it was. I think it's closer to 1.5 for men and 1 for women. Because, seriously, 2 head width on EACH side. That's huge. It's about one now that I think about it. (It's been a very long time since I had art )

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Posted by Spartan on Wed Dec 8th at 7:51pm 2004

? quoting Crono
? quoting Spartan 34
Well I did some more measuring and read up on human proportions some more and it seems that the average is 5 heads high. Also I'd like to state that for males the shoulders are about 2 heads wide and for females the shoulders are about 1.5 heads wide.


Right, I couldn't remember which it was. I think it's closer to 1.5 for men and 1 for women. Because, seriously, 2 head width on EACH side.

Think about what you just said. If a woman's shoulders were the width of one head then she'd look like a snake.

Edit: I found this picture on the web showing the human figure being 7 heads high as I stated before. This looks like the proper heighth for a human but at the same time so does 5 heads high. It's driving me crazy.

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Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 8th at 8:19pm 2004

I told you! 7 heads is for a SUPER-HERO or comic books in general. They have mis proportioned sizes everywhere. It is five heads high for a realistic drawing. [addsig]



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Posted by Spartan on Wed Dec 8th at 8:24pm 2004

Ok so I've been doing some MORE research and measuring and I have come to a conclusion. Go with 5.5 if you want your person to look perfect. This is how I am going to be doing it from now on. 5 and 7 can also be good if you are doing something a little different. 7 would be used for something like a villian in a comic book and five would be used for a normal person who is having to carry a lot of stuff or is being weighed down by something they are carry such as armor. [addsig]




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