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 Re: MAX_MAP_BRUSHSIDES
Posted by TeamWolfguard on Sun Jan 30th at 11:55pm 2005

what is MAX_MAP_BRUSHSIDES and is there away around it?

I think i have hit an upper limit of some kind.


** Executing...
** Command: "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdkbinvbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrike" "C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Jan 19 2005)
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materialPath: c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrikematerials
Loading C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.vmf
Brush 514070: MAX_MAP_BRUSHSIDES
Side 3
Texture: CONCRETE/CONCRETEWALL023B


** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.bsp" "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrikemapsde_sgc_alpha.bsp"






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 Re: MAX_MAP_BRUSHSIDES
Posted by TeamWolfguard on Mon Jan 31st at 12:02am 2005

Im guessing along with that goes the Map has too many texinfos (has 13458, can have at most 12288)


** Executing...
** Command: "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdkbinvbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrike" "C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Jan 19 2005)
1 threads
materialPath: c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrikematerials
Loading C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
Material glass/glasswindowbreak070b is depending on itself through materialvar $crackmaterial! Ignoring...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (7)
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (7)
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 18 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (3)
writing C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.prt...done (1)
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox sky_wasteland02...
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (2) (1531205 bytes)
Emitting linux collision data (use -nolinuxdata to disable).
Building Physics collision data...
done (3) (1531205 bytes)
Error! prop_static using model "models/props/cs_office/Table_coffee.mdl", which must be used on a dynamic entity (i.e. prop_physics). Deleted.
Error loading studio model "models/props/cs_office/Table_coffee.mdl"!
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Writing C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.bsp
Map has too many texinfos (has 13458, can have at most 12288)


** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:Program FilesSteamSteamAppsgames@teamwolfguard.comsourcesdk_contentcstrikemapsrcde_sgc_alpha.bsp" "c:program filessteamsteamappsgames@teamwolfguard.comcounter-strike sourcecstrikemapsde_sgc_alpha.bsp"

If i eliminate half of my map both of them go away. Not the solution i would prefer




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 Re: MAX_MAP_BRUSHSIDES
Posted by French Toast on Mon Jan 31st at 12:57am 2005

Well, try deleting unnesecarry ones, maybe grouping some, and then post back. [addsig]



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Posted by TeamWolfguard on Mon Jan 31st at 3:34am 2005

thanks FT. Fixed the max brushsides. My building prefabs had a lot to be desired. Did away with about 1600 brush shapes. (prefabed tunnel sections made with the cliping tool and then strung together. Eliminated anything that could be shared between ajacent units.)

Im thinking i could do the same with the texinfos problem if i knew what it ment.




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Posted by Rof on Mon Jan 31st at 4:07am 2005

A Texinfo is an indidual texture setting. Not just the texture (material) name itself, but a particular rotation, scaling, lightmap resoluton, and alignment of the texture.

For instance, if you make a wall with a certain texture, then make another wall next to it with the same texture but rotated (or scaled differently, or with the alignment shifted relative to the world differently), that counts as two texinfos. If they had exactly the same texture settings, they would share that texinfo and only count for one.

You also get a new texinfo for faces with the same texture, but facing a different direction in the world (though directly opposite faces can share the same texinfo). So a cube with the same texture setting on all sides counts as three texinfos.

Max texinfos is 12288 per map. The only real way to reduce it is to use less textures, or less different alignments.
[addsig]



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Posted by TeamWolfguard on Mon Jan 31st at 1:29pm 2005

Ok, thats what i was starting to think but that was very clear.

So:

I have an arch that has 15 sections.

Each section would take 1+1+2 texinfos. 1 for the front and back (what you see and the other side). 1 for each end. And 1 each for each of the angled sides that make up the top and bottom of the section.

What happens if I take 3 of the sections and in the texture tool check the "Treat at one" box?

Does it count the "nodraw" texture the same way? (IE: If i put the Nodraw texture on the parts that butt together and are out of sight.)

Thanks for the help guys. Im almost done with the basic layout of this monster and want to get to things like messing up the lighting.





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Posted by Leperous on Mon Jan 31st at 3:35pm 2005

I should think that it ignores all the tool textures, such as CLIP and NODRAW, though it's worth checking by placing hundreds of these brushes in your map to see



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Posted by Rof on Mon Jan 31st at 3:53pm 2005

It looks like the compiler automatically converts any hidden face (one completely flush against another brush) into a nodraw texture. The texinfos for these seem to get shared across a lot of brushes, so they're probably merged somehow.

The only textures/texinfos that I'm sure are completely removed are the skip, clip, playerclip and npcclip textures.
[addsig]




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