Hi all - Maybe somebody can help me out here. I'm busy looking at optimizing my map, I've read all about hints ect. and when I ran my map with mat_wireframe 1, I found that the engine is drawing way too much in one specific area:

and here is the wireframe:

now my qeustion is, why is the engine drawing all the stuff behind this wall? It is solid world brush, so everything behind it does not need to be drawn, right?

The frame rates are relativly ok - some areas go down to 40 and the higest is around the 120 mark. average frame rate is 70 - 90. I reckon I hav to mess around with more hinting but I have read that that could even mess up the framerates more if you don't know what you are doing.

*puts on thinking cap*

Lets see, if it were me guessing I'd say its one of two things.

1) You are using the wrong command, and its not giving you the accurate information.. IE GL_Wireframe 1 or GL_Wireframe 2 in HL1.

2) Even thought the wall is solid, its not tall enough to block off the complete view. (Not yours, the engines view)

Thanks for the info guys. I also thought that somehow I made those brushes func_details, but they are solid world brushes. I'll check out that second link in more detail and try the GL_Wireframe 1 command too.

Yeah, that "BSP" tut is very informative. I realize now that it's better to plan your map with bsp in mind - trying to fix everything at nr.99 wastes time.

I added hint brushes finally and got vvis down from 1min44 to 1min09 -

and vrad from 7min22 to 6min. It's not a lot though ( framerates only slightly better ) so I better do some more reading to try and figure out what the hell I'm doing. Thanks for the help all!

btw, I updated the link to the map.