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Posted by Imbrifer on Wed Aug 10th at 2:03am 2005


This is a discussion topic for the article "Displacement Domes" by Imbrifer which can be found here

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How to make the inside and outside of a dome using displacement surfaces






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Posted by satchmo on Thu Aug 11th at 3:59pm 2005

Well-written and well-illustrated, this tutorial is first-rate. Good job.



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Posted by Quasar on Fri Aug 12th at 1:09pm 2005

Very good and useful... But some of your pictures are mixed up? After the stage where you delete the curved guide brush, they're out of order and hard to follow. Get that fixed and this will be VERY useful to me, thanks a lot.



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Posted by parakeet on Fri Aug 12th at 2:08pm 2005

O.o needs to make this! nj. *compelled to make in one sitting O_o . btw the more you make something the faster you can make it ^_^. it took me eons the first time mazemaster taught us how to make hollow spheres , now its ez$$ to do for the 300th time. smiley

Oh and very to the point concise step by step details.



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Posted by Junkyard God on Fri Aug 12th at 4:20pm 2005

Awsome tutorial m8, verry nice and helpfull, great stuff!



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Posted by Nickelplate on Sun Aug 14th at 1:47am 2005

This is wonderful! I dunno If I'll ever use it, but hell, It may just be on the next map i release!



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Posted by Captain P on Sun Aug 14th at 2:49pm 2005

Good explanation, though I think models might be somewhat easier to construct. Then again, with all the overhead of compiling them and such, they might not.



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Posted by Stadric on Sun Aug 14th at 6:51pm 2005

Seems like a good tut to attach an example map to :o



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Posted by parakeet on Tue Aug 16th at 1:54pm 2005

Just wondering , is it possible to make subdivision maps a prefab and can u copypaste and rotate to make a whole circle?



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Posted by devil_monkey471 on Fri Aug 19th at 4:47am 2005

Parakeet, I believe so, but you wouldn't need to make is a prefab to copy, paste and rotate smiley

Just group it all together, and then save it as a prefab. Prefabs just need to be grouped, I believe.



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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Aug 22nd at 10:32pm 2005

Woojay for the tutorial.



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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Aug 23rd at 11:04pm 2005

Very iffy... I've worked alot with displacements and I've worked out much better ways of doing hollow domes and other shapes than this method.



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Posted by Imbrifer on Sun Aug 28th at 8:19pm 2005

Myrk-.. care to elaborate?



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Posted by Pericolos0 on Thu Sep 1st at 10:38am 2005

Use the subdivide option, it does miracles smiley
you could probably do a dome like this within a minute with a clever subdivide setup

i made this tunnel that way:
<a href="http://insurgencymod.net/team/upload/Users/Pericolos0/tunnel.jpg" target="_blank">http://insurgencymod.net/team/upload/Users/Pericolos0/tunnel.jpg</a>



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Posted by Imbrifer on Thu Sep 1st at 6:18pm 2005

Subdivide always retains the straight edges of the brush, and thus cannot be used to make simple domes. While some dome-ish creation could be made by using several brushes and deleting the extra ones, it would indeed be difficult to get a dome of a specific size, arch and depth using subdivide and a bit of vertex manipulation.

Plus, once you've done this once or twice, it's a snap smiley



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Posted by Underdog on Sun Sep 11th at 1:55pm 2005

Personally I do not feel that anyone who has not attempted to try a tutorial out should post a score/rating upon it. If you the user, do not take the time necessary to ascertain &quot;IF&quot; the tut is worthy, your score is meaningless.



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Posted by Myrk- on Fri Sep 23rd at 7:12pm 2005

Maybe mappers like me and Peri have actually done most tutorials that are posted on the snarkpit, and any others are easy to understand.



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Posted by Underdog on Mon Sep 26th at 12:53am 2005

(@Myrk)
Perhaps you are oversensitive. Imagine for a second that I was referring to the high scores.



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Posted by Fjorn on Thu Aug 17th at 7:48pm 2006

This does not explain how to make an inside dome at all...

all it says is 'repeat step 2 using the inside displacement' err, wtf?



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Posted by Goonlobster02 on Sat Aug 1st at 6:42pm 2009

First off, Imbrifer very nice tutorial and fairly helpful. However, I would like to add that a person working with displacements can also reduce the paint geometry distance to values below whole number integers if they are wanting to align the vertices of the displacement to the guide brush vertices. For example, if my displacement faces aren't forming a straight line from the outer quarter cylinder to the inner quarter cylinder, I can reduce my move distance (with spatial moving disabled) to .025, .01, .005, .001 and perhaps lower. There is no problem doing this as BSP will not treat it as world geometry and you will get the best possible alignment for your displacement faces. This can save users headaches in the long run when they find they are completely unable to align a vertex.

Also, be sure to use the 2D viewports to help alignment, especially on the Z axis where it is the most difficult when you are viewing all three axes. A useful trick I have found for this is to VIS group each concentric cylinder brush into its own group (bottom in VISgroup 1, second from bottom in VISgroup 2, third from bottom in VISgroup 3 et cetera).

Thanks for the awesome articles!
Goonlobster

Edit: Using your Face Normal option and alt-right clicking to set the movement axis perpendicular to the face also saves you time when you have to constantly toggle between the X and Y axes as it will pretty much drop it right next to the desired vertex you are aligning. Be patient, though as the alt-right click method can be tricky.




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