ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
locked
Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Oct 6th at 10:25am 2009


Good on you Larchy! smiley





Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Niborius on Fri Nov 6th at 2:25pm 2009


I think The Snarkpit should maybe be fullscreen (stretched), so you don't have black bars at the sides of the monitor when you're using a widescreen display.

I don't really care since it's already fine as it is, but it's just a suggestion.






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Nov 25th at 8:24pm 2009


I keep pressing the THEME button but it won't bring back my old snarkpit!



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Niborius on Wed Nov 25th at 8:32pm 2009


Quoting Nickelplate
I keep pressing the THEME button but it won't bring back my old snarkpit!

Oh man, I really miss the old snarkpit smiley






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by FatStrings on Fri Dec 18th at 6:01pm 2009


Quoting Niborius
I think The Snarkpit should maybe be fullscreen (stretched), so you don't have black bars at the sides of the monitor when you're using a widescreen display.

I don't really care since it's already fine as it is, but it's just a suggestion.


That usually makes websites act really weird on different sized monitors, it is good practice to have a set page width so it never gets stretched and the spacing doesn't go all lamer

just fyi

also: I love how my journal is called diary




Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Niborius on Fri Dec 18th at 7:45pm 2009


Quoting FatStrings
That usually makes websites act really weird on different sized monitors, it is good practice to have a set page width so it never gets stretched and the spacing doesn't go all lamer
Oh thanks I didn't know that, but it makes sense.






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Tue Dec 22nd at 11:59am 2009


Alright, who was the eyedot who suggested a 30 minute time limit on editing your own post?
I noticed an error in one of mine this morning, and now I cannot fix it.

Time limit = unlimited...




The best things in life, aren't things.



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Niborius on Tue Dec 22nd at 5:30pm 2009


Quoting Orpheus
Alright, who was the eyedot who suggested a 30 minute time limit on editing your own post?
I noticed an error in one of mine this morning, and now I cannot fix it.

Time limit = unlimited...

I so agree with this.






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Riven on Tue Dec 22nd at 6:29pm 2009


We had an issue in the past where some angry forum-goers were having a charged debate (or argument), and one character went back and deleted all of his posts thereby eliminating any trace to be had with his name in the future. We saw this as an issue, and limited the edit-ability of posts except the first post to 30 minutes. The first post may be edited any time by the original poster.

But at least now you don't have to worry about topics auto-locking smiley






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Crollo on Tue Dec 22nd at 9:03pm 2009


Quoting Orpheus
Alright, who was the eyedot who suggested a 30 minute time limit on editing your own post?


/me whilstles innocently




Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Dec 26th at 8:41pm 2009


Quoting yodalman


/me whilstles innocently


Isn't that a new song by Black Sabbath?




The best things in life, aren't things.



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Crollo on Sat Dec 26th at 10:35pm 2009


Quoting Orpheus
Quoting yodalman


/me whilstles innocently


Isn't that a new song by Black Sabbath?


In that case...

/me whistles camptown races


You'd have to have watched the stepfather to understand this... (not the 2009 movie)




Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by G4MER on Sun Dec 27th at 8:11pm 2009


While editing my Profile, I saw there is a lil check box for the snowing snarks.. AWESOME! good deal, so those who want them can and those who don't can opt out. Fantastic!



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Niborius on Sat Jan 2nd at 4:22pm 2010


I had this in mind for a very long time, they did this at some mortal kombat site.

Someone who wins a challengecompetition at the Snarkpit gets some snarkmarks as a reward. Actually they did this with karma on that site but it's the same idea.






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Riven on Sun Jan 3rd at 7:30am 2010


@Nib, I really do like this idea. It's a bonus reward or perhaps good enough as it's own reward for competitions. I think I might have mentioned it before myself, or at least written it down in my laundry list of feature requests I like to breadcrumb throughout the year to larchy smiley. Needless to say, I agree that perhaps in your snarkmarks page under your control panel, there would be a listing for: '$M earned in competition' -And then perhaps a link to the relevant (voting) thread.

In any case, I'll also use this post and this thread to respond about the new article preview system.

It works flawlessly, (at least for me in FireFox v3.5.6) And performs like I think it would.

I think seeing everything on one page regardless of it's pagination is better for preview purposes. I liked it for the admin ability when reviewing articles, and I think it works equally well for authors; no need racking your mind around implementing alternatives. Oh, also, if your page title includes an apostrophe ('), then it adds that familiar backslash in front of it within the contents section in the preview.

The placeholder image is also understandable, and I have no qualms with that either. I'm glad there is a placeholder at all. -It's more than you need to see how the article will look anyway. One question though: Will pages that don't get names, automatically get titled: "untitled page"? or simply: "page 3, page 4, etc...)? I'd hate to see in the contents list for new articles: Untitled Page, Untitled Page, Untitled Page,... If the author doesn't wish to name them, or doesn't realize they can, If it isn't a large concern, perhaps this could be a good compromise until an admin can note them on it before publishing.

About editing already existing articles: I realize this presents its own set of sticky coding scenarios, but to make a note about it: After receiving feedback on an article, the author can only sit idlely or beg an admin to make exact changes to their article so that it may address some of the new information proposed by the community via the feedback. This fixed format doesn't really sit well with me when we're working with the power of customized PHP & SQL code. Now, I wouldn't wish authors to come back after a while and wipe their articles clean off the Pit, if they had the ability to do so, because, you know, once you 'publish' your article to the Pit, it kind of belongs to the Pit then. Instead, I suggest a standard 30 day 'feedback edit period' that allows an author to make as many changes as he sees fit to his article.

Of course, this brings the next proposition of having to get it cleared with the admin before getting re-published again and receiving new feedback. If the 30 days are up and the author wishes to make further edits the day after, or years after even, then perhaps, an admin could potentially grant an extended other 30 days pass on the article for editing and re-approval. Now question is: Am I getting too complicated? (as I normally do). -And is this just not necessary or could a compromise be made? smiley







Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Sun Jan 3rd at 8:11am 2010


Adding editing conditionals isn't really a big deal - it's just the way it is because, like everything else, I had to make a best guess as to how everything worked. If you need anything like that adding just make a bullet list of the conditions you want (so I don't misunderstand anything :P ) and it shouldn't be an issue.



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Riven on Sun Jan 3rd at 8:45am 2010


Ah, well if you put it that way! smiley

For enabling editing of published articles by user-authors
  • must be within the 30 day's allotted time by an admin, or within the automatic 30 days initializing from the original first approval date.
  • must be already published (so as not to overwrite the already published version until the edited version is admin approved)
Also of note: any new images or files uploaded meant to replace the existing ones in the published version should also not be overwritten until admin approval. -Could this be added as a note to the user only to appear when editing their article? In other words, if they're edited article is denied and asked to be re-edited before approval for publishing, they shouldn't need to re-upload their newly edited images or files.

Also while I'm on it... I think perhaps a lot of these same conditions could and should apply for downloads as well.

Conditions for edit-ability of downloads by user-authors:
  • Must be within the automatic 30 day period of original publishing/ OR within a re-issued 30 day period by an admin.
  • Must be already published (this goes without saying I suppose)
I know there is no approval system set up for downloads and I don't wish there to be one either. But there should be a note (both in re-editing of articles AND downloads) that appears at the top somewhere to let user-authors know of and about the 30 day edit period and the ability to request an extended grace period to make changes in the future. Perhaps this might be best presented by default all the time right on the articles and downloads tab of the control panel. It could go something like this:

"Editing of articles after admin approval lasts for 30 days and is met with re-approval before public posting. If you wish to make edits after that time, you may submit a request for another 30 day editing grace period by which any new edits shall also be met with re-approval before public posting."

I leave it to you to figure the best way to interface all this, but I suggest I might expect it right on the article and download tabs of that user's CP. Also, I think maybe extended grace time period requests could sync with a sent PM to all admins? That is, the user, after clicking on "request more edit time" next to their already published articles or downloads would be sent to a PM text box page, with the header already filled in via automatic text, and they could type in why they feel the need to request more edit time. OR that could be an inquiry by an admin anyway as a regular PM to that user and could be unnecessary as a built-in feature. -Just a thought.






Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Sun Jan 3rd at 9:12am 2010


I'm gonna have a bit of a play around with the database structure to better enable having/keeping multiple versions of the same article... will see how it pans out.



Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by larchy on Sun Jan 3rd at 10:51am 2010


Quoting Riven
Oh, also, if your page title includes an apostrophe ('), then it adds that familiar backslash in front of it within the contents section in the preview.




F@#!"!@£ing magicquotes smiley




Quote
Re: ARCHIVE: Snarkpit v6 Feedback Thread
Posted by Orpheus on Mon Jan 4th at 11:28pm 2010


This unhealthy fixation on cats is disturbing me. The last assholes who fixated on cats ruined my account and practically sabotaged the entire site over at TWHL. I would use all my influences to have anyone banned from here if anything even remotely similar occurred here at Snarkpit. Please try to assure me that this is not an unhealthy trend. I truly do not want to test just whom has the most influence.

/rant




The best things in life, aren't things.




locked