? quoting Yak_Fighter

ah, ok. I think I have some ideas on how to impliment these things. I'll see if I can shove them in there.

teamwork, its such a f**king cool concept

if it rains, in a building with no roof, puddles form in the lower levels.

shade will slow evaporation too so, you could put stagnant water in darker places.

trash isn't the only form of debris.. dirt piles on the windward side of things.. rain washes dirt away on others.

when i said "rampant plant growth" i didn't mean a second tropical rain forest.. just put some grass stems on places that in a normal building would have it.. places where footsteps would not trample it if it were real.

with dust, comes beams of light, use that to effect.

sounds, don't forget some sounds.

hope that helps.

Tiles are actually cut that way though ... And honestly, I doubt he could cram much more detail in that open of an area.

Yak, very nice architecture, I like it. I don't think you have to go as far as making an ass load of foliage or something like that, but messing around with the "dust particle" effects would be a good idea, especially in the area shown in screen #6/7.

It also seems like there should be some more bare wires and such. But, that's just some extra detail.

Anyway, get optimizing, I suppose.

I'll see what I can do, but I'm already below my target FPS in certain areas so I don't know how much more I can add. I agree that the pictures aren't stunning and that the map probably won't be well received, but that's nothing new for my maps :/

The windows on the orange building will be blown out, that is a pretty obvious oversight on my part. I don't know how many plants I'm going to be putting in the rafters of concrete and brick buildings... now if they were completely destroyed leaving only an empty shell and rubble on the ground then sure, but these buildings aren't very realistically destroyed. The ground is probably too undamaged, but I can't start tearing up the road in any significant way because players still need to be able to get around the level. I refuse to use any of the concrete pile models down there because they present too many snags and sticking points for an area that basically connects the entire level.

Thanks for the suggestions.

EDIT: What picture are you talking about? There are no tile roofs in the first picture.

Yeah. The structure of the map looks fine to me, and you did some cool things with the lighting (see 3rd to last screen - wow) but it's like the map has two halves: a ground level that is basically unscathed, and a rooftop level that's all f**ked up.

Though I hate to say it, the lighting needs to be a harsher color, if only a darker gray. Subtle fog (and maybe even dust/fire sprites here and there?) would do you a world of good.

I don't want to trash the map; the effort you put into the design/architecture is apparent in the screens. It just lacks the extra umph of polish needed to jump out at the audience.