Posted by onniguru on Sat Mar 12th 2005 at 4:00am
Nice architecture, and I even like the textures. I can't comment on the lighting, since you already said you haven't started on that part yet.
The rain would be ok, if it doesn't happen all the time. Otherwise, I think it would get annoying after awhile.
The courtyard looks kinda big and empty. Yeah, my courtyard had the same problem.
My only comments on gameplay is this: Its hard to get good gameplay with this type of map, at least for basic arena-type games (such as hl2-dm). If you were making an RPG coop-style mod, however, it could rock
. Unfortunately, SOURCE is not a good
starting platform for creating an RPG; the amount of coding required to
make an RPG from SOURCE would be simply enormous. But I digress...Posted by ReNo on Fri Mar 11th 2005 at 3:53pm
I only added noclip because people kept bloody killing me while I was TRYING to look around
By that point I figured we had established it
wouldn't play well in its current state, so I didn't think it was an
issue. Besides, doing stunstick fly bys was a good laugh!The level really still needs a lot of work done, mainly to make the layout work better and improve performance. As it stands there are some nice architectural ideas around, but obviously still a lot to recieve ANY detail so its kinda hard to comment on the overall visuals. Having such a large courtyard is a bad idea in my opinion, as if you spawn on the grass area you had quite a distance to run before you got anywhere of interest, and all that time you were completely exposed to magnum/xbow/RPG users. It seems to me like you have felt you needed to fill a box, and so you built some walls to match the dimensions of the building, and filled it with a giant courtyard and grassy hills. Forget this, and build your grounds to a shape that benefits gameplay. Scrap all the redundant grass areas which are too far from the building, and pull the walls inward at the extremities or something. No point commenting on lighting or props at this stage of the map obviously.
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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 11th 2005 at 9:03am
? quoting Campaignjunkie
Playtested this briefly with some other Snarkpitters (I think Orph was there too). But anyway, I agree with Orph - big and empty. Kudos for attempting such a setting, but gameplay just really wasn't there. Plus, you just threw a box around it so it would compile, and that worsened the framerate a lot (averaged 20-30 FPS in the common area). Get rid of the water too, you can't even really see it with the dark light_environment setting.
EDIT: I noticed in the map profile you wanted to make it as "realistic as possible." Don't do this. Realism is a tool to make a map more attractive. You probably shouldn't build a map around realism, as gameplay will suffer as a result.
EDIT: I noticed in the map profile you wanted to make it as "realistic as possible." Don't do this. Realism is a tool to make a map more attractive. You probably shouldn't build a map around realism, as gameplay will suffer as a result.
oh yeah, this old man, he played one, he played knickknack on his thumb...
i mean, i was there from beginning to end... i must confess, adding "noclip" to a playtest really blew my mind.. i was thinking "OH f**kING GREAT!!!, now my connection is truly f**ked.. look at these guys zoom around"
i couldn't hit a sole 
then i notice, some jackass was floating in a tree.. 
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Mar 11th 2005 at 5:30am
Playtested this briefly with some other Snarkpitters (I think Orph was there too). But anyway, I agree with Orph - big and empty. Kudos for attempting such a setting, but gameplay just really wasn't there. Plus, you just threw a box around it so it would compile, and that worsened the framerate a lot (averaged 20-30 FPS in the common area). Get rid of the water too, you can't even really see it with the dark light_environment setting.
EDIT: I noticed in the map profile you wanted to make it as "realistic as possible." Don't do this. Realism is a tool to make a map more attractive. You probably shouldn't build a map around realism, as gameplay will suffer as a result.
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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Mar 11th 2005 at 5:24am
don't worry habboi, I never took any offense. anyway, I thank you for your kind comments. [addsig]
don't worry habboi, I never took any offense. anyway, I thank you for your kind comments. [addsig]
Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 11th 2005 at 3:41am
its big, its empty, and its raining.
all together makes for a strange maps indeed.
try to fill it up and get rid of the rain 
Posted by habboi on Thu Mar 10th 2005 at 7:04pm
Lol your taking it as though i'm saying negatives but on catrare I am merely aplauding you for your efforts because what I mean is that 'when i see your screenshots, it's like playing 'They Hunger' again! which is a good thing because the Mod ruled!
Keep up the good work!
P.S. They Hunger was a spooky / scary mod and your map appears to be spooky at the moment
Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 10th 2005 at 6:40pm
habboi i have never played "they hunger" but i assure you this is totally my creation. [addsig]
habboi i have never played "they hunger" but i assure you this is totally my creation. [addsig]
Posted by habboi on Thu Mar 10th 2005 at 6:36pm
It looks stunning although I agree that the textures need to be better and from a first glimse of the pictures I felt as though I was playing 'They Hunger' again
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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 10th 2005 at 6:31pm
Okay this is the beta 1 chapter! Please give me any and all suggestions. there's lost that is not done yet, i know. ALSO, the screens are much darker than the map itself [addsig]
Okay this is the beta 1 chapter! Please give me any and all suggestions. there's lost that is not done yet, i know. ALSO, the screens are much darker than the map itself [addsig]
