return2tron by THX-1138
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Game: Team Fortress Classic (HL)
Added Mon Feb 16th 2004

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This map has a discussion topic which can be visited here

The map will be pretty much like 2fort, keeping with the same general layout, but changing the entire feel of the map. I've remade the entire 2fort brush by brush, now I am working on sections at a time. I will finish blue's side, then copy+mirror it, and retexture to red.

Like I said, I will try to keep with the same basic layout. That means entrances, spawns, will be in the same "general" place, but modified a little or a lot. Some places, like the elevator shaft, will be completely redone. The entire basement, will keep the same layout, but modified somewhat. I was thinking of completely removing the water entrance+spiral staircase, with something else like a teleport or wormhole type entrance. I am not sure exactly.

I really want to capture the whole "Tron world" feeling in this map. That's hard, because the HL engine is limiting me on how I want to do things. The glowing alone is a pain, and I want to cover the map with a good amount of it. This is the biggest challenge, keeping the r_speeds at bay.

Please check out the screenshots up at the right, and let me know what you think. Thanks


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0 starsPosted by bluebull on Wed Mar 3rd 2004 at 7:42pm

pretty funky map m8, cant wait to see the finished product. It must be funny on the eyes in the editor
0 starsPosted by Gwil on Sat Feb 21st 2004 at 2:31pm

get rid of the roof on the balcony, it'll screw up conc jumping :P
0 starsPosted by SHeeP on Thu Feb 19th 2004 at 5:00pm

indeed , mmmm im gonna go open tron2.0's editor
0 starsPosted by Juim on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 2:18pm

The concept is good, however you might be hard pressed to translate the Tron world properly with the HL engine. I would look into adding touches of color here and there and definitely make some animated textures so there seems to be life in the map. I believe I posted a tron shot here once:

I'm sure you've played the game, you seem to be off to a good start. Best of luck.

0 starsPosted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 1:35am

I think the blue in Tron was a lighter shade. It had more aqua and was not very bold.
0 starsPosted by Dietz on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 12:55am

Layout is easy enough to learn...

0 starsPosted by Orpheus on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 12:41am

DAVE... shaddup you've seen me upset.. *mumbles* asswipe

THX-1138,

honestly bud, i have no real interest in finding the right shade of blue, i was only saying, that with nothing else in there, its kinda hard to say for sure is all.

brightness debates have been here a time or two, with no clear winner, mostly because so many different gamma settings are possible with HL.. my advice tho is, since most people have theres set pretty high, i would go for a bit dim, in an attempt to counter any extra high settings.

i remember the movie, dimly, it was ok, nothing i would care to map for.. but original enuff to warrant doing.

i can offer some feedback, but critiques are no longer one of my main concerns... sorry

we do however have others as qualified as i, perhaps one of them could be convinced.

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Posted by THX-1138 on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 12:22am

Ok. Well I just happened to use those textures because Im doing blues base first. I will include other colors for sure. As far as blue not being the dominant color, well that's not totally true. All the "good" guys had a blue glow to them, their suits that is. Bad guys, had red glow. The Tron world itself was made up of lots of colors. But a good amount of it, is actually bluish green. Depending on your video settings, the glowing color can be really green or really blue. I don't want to get all technical about it, but if you have the movie, check it out. The brightness is something I am aware of. I've tried making it really bright, and really dim. But there are some parts in the actual movie, where the glowing is really intense, like in the tanks and in the Recognizer. Im not sure if I make it dimmer, if it will still have the same effect.

The reason I am making this, is because I love Tron. I've seen it so many times, I can say that I am somewhat knowledgeable on it. I hope I don't sound like a jerk, I just want to make it clear that I am really trying my hardest to pull this off, and do a good job.

I have finished all of the upper base of blue, now I will work on the mid sections. This includes elevator area, and spiral down to basement.

Orpheus, if you would like, try to come up with some diff glowing methods. Try to get the brightness to where you think it should be. I would really like to see other peoples attempt at the glowing. Its not hard or anything, but I really want to get that "perfect" glow effect, and think if I get some input, the final product will be great.

Thanks
0 starsPosted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Feb 17th 2004 at 12:09am

Jon, I had originally posted a 81k image, but swapped it for that one because of the noticeable difference in quality. There's no use promoting image compressors when you can clearly see the difference imho. Didn't have to take yours down and I wasn't having a go at you so just calm the f**k down!!! [addsig]
0 starsPosted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 11:44pm

IMO, without anything else in that screen besides all that blue, its really tuff to say.. it looks to bright to me, just looking at the screenshot..

tron was blue-yes

tron was not brilliantly so..

if i remember correctly blue wasn't even the dominant color either.. you might consider others.

and 200k is... well i got mine down to 74. the fact that they were not bmp, is unimportant, 800+ is tho.

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