return2tron by THX-1138
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Game: Team Fortress Classic (HL)
Added Mon Feb 16th 2004

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This map has a discussion topic which can be visited here

The map will be pretty much like 2fort, keeping with the same general layout, but changing the entire feel of the map. I've remade the entire 2fort brush by brush, now I am working on sections at a time. I will finish blue's side, then copy+mirror it, and retexture to red.

Like I said, I will try to keep with the same basic layout. That means entrances, spawns, will be in the same "general" place, but modified a little or a lot. Some places, like the elevator shaft, will be completely redone. The entire basement, will keep the same layout, but modified somewhat. I was thinking of completely removing the water entrance+spiral staircase, with something else like a teleport or wormhole type entrance. I am not sure exactly.

I really want to capture the whole "Tron world" feeling in this map. That's hard, because the HL engine is limiting me on how I want to do things. The glowing alone is a pain, and I want to cover the map with a good amount of it. This is the biggest challenge, keeping the r_speeds at bay.

Please check out the screenshots up at the right, and let me know what you think. Thanks


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Posted by THX-1138 on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 11:20pm

Well, all my images are jpgs, not bmp. But any ways, sorry for the sizes, I got them all under 200k now, so let me know what you think. Should I go lower?

Now we got the image topic out of the way, comments on the glow itself? Anyone else try to come up with a good glow method?

Also, did this test room give you a feeling of the Tron glow? Not really the textures so much, but the glow itself? I cant tell if its too little of a glow, or the right amount.

Thanks
0 starsPosted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 6:50pm

point?

the last screen has so little degradation, that it still shows the rooms in detail, yet is below the required 100k.. i could have increased, or decreased it, true enuff, but the only reason it is still at 74k is because of all the blue.. images with far more colors, and far more detail can be lowered to 25k and look good...

my point wasn't to be an ass, but to motivate the hard heads among us to think of the 56k members.

in fact, i have been rather patient the last year or so, and prolly longer, cause i have been promoting the xat program for almost??? 4 years perhaps..

still.. it is a bit OTT of me to post the last image, when you already had proved my point before i logged in..

i concede..

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0 starsPosted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 6:32pm

The point was retaining the image quality Jon. [addsig]
0 starsPosted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 5:02pm

[image edited out per A_S]

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0 starsPosted by Pegs on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 4:49pm

You should really make all your images as small as possible, but make sure that they still look like they have the same quality. + the small images are quicker to load. [addsig]
0 starsPosted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 4:42pm

300k image:


124k image:
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0 starsPosted by Pegs on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 4:22pm

Nice Mapping I quite liked Tron this would be a fun map to play. [addsig]
0 starsPosted by matt on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 12:47pm

Nice idea, hope it work out for you. Sort of like tron isn't it?

edit: Just looked at the map name and slapped myself.

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0 starsPosted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 12:43pm

i don't wanna be a stick in the mud, well yes i do, but not a big stick, but 800+k images are not looked upon kindly around here, no its not the image itself, we welcome almost any style map, but we still have a fair share of 56kers around.

if you need it, visit www.xat.com and get the jpg optimizer, its a godsend program, it will convert this .bmp to a .jpg for you, and decrease its file size by many times.. with no quality loss.

since you are new, we won't complain to much, if you replace it soonish anyways..

a good thing to remember, .jpgs of less than 100k always.. preferably of the 50k variety at 800x600

[edit] i just noticed, some of your other screens are in excess of 1 meg.. do not forget those too..

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Posted by THX-1138 on Mon Feb 16th 2004 at 12:15pm

In case you are lazy, and dont want to dl it, probably not even worth it to some, heres a screenshot of the test room:



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