func details?!

so yeah, i might be posting here a bit.

Ive mapped quite a bit for source, but now really really want to map for NS, a mod ive been in love with for years.

My first Q... are there anything akin to func_details?

and any other general pointers for someone used to source who's now hittin up the HL1?

Um, take a look through the HL1 tutorials. Something you should already be familiar with, since, Source is the same thing ... with some new features.

And, func_wall is what you want to use. All the func_ based brushes work by the same principles as in hl2 ... in fact everything that both engines have in common work on the same principles.

In any case ... to answer your questions ... you're at a site created for hl mapping ... amongst the best of the best for information. Just browse around.

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In any case ... to answer your questions ... you're at a site
created for hl mapping ... amongst the best of the best for
information. Just browse around.

One where there's being talked in plain english...unlike valve-erc

so does that mean that complicated architecture should be made into func_walls?

func_details are used to ease the breakup of the bsp, but i was under the impression that func_walls were hard on the engine...

It doesn't work the same way. The ONLY options you have in HL1 are the func_ brushes. So, if you want to pass through it ... use invisible (or whatever that one is) if it's a solid object use wall. If it's breakable use ... breakable. There's not many more options.

As for "breaking up the BSP" ... no ... you basically have to rely on nice placement in HL1 for VIS blocking ... if you really need it, you place hint brushes. Other then that ... there's really nothing else as far as "occludes" or "vis portals" go.

All that stuff is new in HL2.

Also, in hl1, it's much easier to see if your map will run well. There are r_speeds, which is basically a polygon count. Really all you have to do is keep polygon counts low. To do that, you use func_ brushes pressed up against real world brushes, you do that so it doesn't split the face ... making more polygons.

In hl1 texture resolution is more of an issue, you can make it too small or else everything will be split too much and become laggy.

As for what I think you're talking about: planes, all you can do is limit the amount of unique angels you make. Try to make things line up as often as possible.

VIS leafs work the same way ... but aren't as good, since you have no blocking utensil, like a portal.

I hope that all helps.

Paladin: what?

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