Ohh thats nice.. that should help him a lot.

Here's a floorplan I found online...

http://www.notfrisco2.com/alcatraz/maps/celhaus.html

wow wish that was real game.At first i thought it was a real map

I noticed you mentioned building the island first, then the buildings.
I'd actually recommend doing it the other way around, as the
displacement work is going to be rather complex.

Unlike UT2003-4 which allows you to cut holes through terrain to allow
passages and things, HL2 doesn't let you do that. The only way to get
around it is by using smaller displacements and joining them up,
leaving blank spaces where buildings and tunnels and things need to go.
That being said, creating the entire island first before the buildings
will be a tremendous waste of time, because chances are you will have
to re-do most, if not all your displacements to fit the man made
structures.

I'd recommend actually assembling the layout of the island, that is the
outline of the island, key buildings and things, to scale using simple
blocks as representations till every thing is in the right place. Then
build your buildings and other man made structures. Once they are done,
then create the displacement maps around the buildings.

Trust me, it will save you huge amounts of time and will also result in
less errors in the future, a lesson I learnt the hard way in dm_Hydro.

The trick to building a lighthouse or any other semi-complicated building is to build it in a separate .vmf file and tweak it until its the way you like it, and only then copy it back into your map.

Basically I made an 8 sided arch with a wall-width of 8 for the outside of the lighthouse, and then moved all the verticies onto grid lines. Then I used the arch tool again to make a spiral staircase, and cut holes in the walls with the clip tool to make the windows. Be sure to only cut holes in the walls that are not angled, or else you are in for a world of hurt trying to get everything aligned in Hammre. The .vmf is here, you can take a look:
http://www3.hmc.edu/~nalger/dm_island17_vmf.zip

Everything to do with the lighthouse is in the "lighthouse" vis group, so I suggest you hide everything except the lighthouse and terrain vis groups so that the map doesn't lag your computer.

Wish those were screens.

CrapinaBottle said:
iom going on a tour for band to san francisco for the jr. high band in granite bay (olympus) we will either be touring alcatraz or going around it with a ferry, i try and talk pics and e-mail em' to u.

my email is crapinabottle@hotmail.com

good luck on your map

i meant to say was: i'll try and take pics and e-mail em' to u.

sure
i'll be going there next friday

CrapinaBottle said:
we will either be touring alcatraz or going around it with a ferry, i try and talk pics and e-mail em' to u.

my email is crapinabottle@hotmail.com

good luck on your map

any pics you get of the island need to go here please

iom going on a tour for band to san francisco for the jr. high band in granite bay (olympus) we will either be touring alcatraz or going around it with a ferry, i try and talk pics and e-mail em' to u.

my email is crapinabottle@hotmail.com

good luck on your map

Hehe unfortunately none of the screeners are game footage there all pics of the real alcatraz, the good thing for me is the valve set of textures and props should cover this perfectly, it does look like hl2 textureset a bit dont it. yeah im gonna focus on the outside area as much as inside i think, im not gonna have the whole prison complex inside, maybe a couple of big open hallways with cells, and a few others then do the outside.

Im goping through hell with hammer atm, im trying to start the displacement for the island to get my setting and scale right, trouble is ive tryed clipping out my shape then tryed to displace and hammer goes mwha at me :sad:

Back to the drawing board uncleste, but i shall succeed mwuahhaha :biggrin:

UncleSte.