dm_gimmick

Check the screens, tell me what you think. Any problems you see, tell me and I might fix them. I'll probably put the map up in a week or so.

Shot 1:
The ceiling's texture needs to be re-aligned and scaled down. Try aligning the outer black edge of the texture to the corners of the room.

Shot 3:
The ceiling has the same problem as shot 1. Also, the texture on the wall does not transition well around the corner. Try putting some sort of post or something at the corner for the transition.

Shot 4:
It looks like the middle of the ceiling has the Sky texture. Build the brushes for the edges of that opening and raise the sky up.

The water would look a bit better if it was slightly more transparent.

Shot 5:
Very nicely detailed. This area seems much more 'alive' then the other areas. (Rs are getting up there though).

Overall:
The map seems rather bland.

Suggestions:

Lighting:
Put in some better lighting.

Try adding some texture lights to the walls near the ground in some areas. (such as in shot 3).

Some spotlights (shown as hanging lamps) in area of shot 2, would look pretty good.

Architecture:
The architecture looks too boxy.
Try replicating the same style you have in shot 5 in the other areas.

So, I hope that all helps. The map looks really interesting; it just doesn't captivate that well.

I think if you made it a bit "prettier" it would be badass. (more detailed textures wouldn't hurt either :wink: ).

w_poly in the second and last screenshot are to high

Crono makes some very valid points.

I like the design of the lights in the first picture - is that a glass entity covering them?

Overall, it's shaping up pretty nice and I look forward to fragging in it.

Crono pointed out all of the things I could see. Was going to run through it fully but then I saw this...

Any problems you see, tell me and I might fix them.

Lol, yeah. I'm getting a bit lazy :biggrin:

No replacement shots, but I've been hammering away. That ceiling texture has been fixed, and I've even spinkeefied the ceiling there a bit for some interestingness. I've also fixed the majority of the "texture doesnt go around the corner well" problems. The sky bit has yet to be fixed, but I can assure you itll get fixed before the next compile. The water is more transparent now too. Lighting is slightly improved in some areas, muchly improved in others.

No, there are no glass entities over any of the lights. Thats pure +0~TNNL_LGT :smile:

EDIT: oh yeah, shot 3, the truck now has headlights on. That area was a bit dark for my liking... Hanging lights from the ceiling will also be done.

Well if you ever feel like putting in the effort I wouldn't mind having a run through it for ya. :smile:

second to last pic is a little strange with the sky, and some of the polies are a bit high in a few places (but you could probably solve that), other than that the map looks like a HLDM, I just dont know about the "gimmick" part.

Myeh, I've fixed it up a bit. I'll have to compile to see how it really looks, and I've still got to figure out a way to fix them r's, but I'm glad wpoly is under 1000 for 99% of the map (probably a 1^st for me ).

The red beam in the fourth shot looks out of place, and those massive lights hanging off it would drag it into the water. Add frames around your doorways to give them a more solid feel. I like the walls in the fifth shot.

I've improved the map, make thy judgements. Downloadable shortly methinks...

Getting it now. :smile:

1. Those lights you have in a good few places are pretty think, they don't look natural. Half as thick would look better. Add a bit of concrete where the red supports touch the wall to make them look more solid. The texture used under the train tracks is very low quality. The room is a bit bright and sterile overall.



2. I know it's a pain in the ass but align those textures.



3. This alcove could do with a frame around it, as could the door contained within.



4. A close-up of the offending door. Put a frame on it and recess it into the wall and it'll look much nicer.



5. Try and steer away from using big boxes and crates in such abundance. If you want to keep them, rotate some of them so they're not all at 90 degree angles and put them one unit above the ground to stop the face splitting.



6. This railing is a bit thin and has a poor texture on its top. A pillar to smoothen the texture transition on hte wall would be nice. You could steal one of the pillars on the left which aren't being used to hold anything up! :razz:



7. This big block of metal doesn't look right, change the side texture to something more vertically suitable . :smile:



8 Big lights, frame around the door, concrete for the red support. :wink:



9. Just a small error.



10. You're going to need a frame around this too. The whole wall is extremely thin too, it doesn't look like it would support it's own weight.



11. Move the organge bit embeddind in the wall out by about 32 units to give it a bit of depth.



12. Those supports under the walkway need something extra but I can't think of anything to suggest.



13. Set your waveheight to 0 to get rid of this problem, waves dont look that nice anyway. :smile:



14. This is cool, but the door could do with a frame (If I have to say that one more time). A couple of admonitary red lights in hte bottom pointing up would add a little variation.



15. Add something onto the bottom of the metal grating so it doesn't end abruptly.



16. Eek. Some texture variation please. If you want to be lazt just move every second step texture 8 units over.



17. You can get up here using the train, put some goodies here.. or another of your infernal f**king death machines that are scattered around the place. :biggrin:



18. Mmm very nice, you'd have to blind for it to catch you out though.



19. Very cool effect. Notice I thought it was a different room and tried to shoot though. Is this really the kind of person you want mapping advice from? I never noticed that button on the wall.. wonder what it does. Knowing you, it probably makes the gun range take revenge and shoot you back.



20. Maybe they have magical floating lifts where you come from, but I think it needs a support. :smile:

Hope this was of use to you. I enjoyed the map, and was just focusing on the bad stuff here. :smile:

Well thanks for your comments A_S, I'll implement some of your ideas (fixing that door and the crates would be a major one).

You might want to try pressing that button, preferably while a n00b is camping the egon... :dodgy:

1. Fixed the thick lights...

2. Honestly, I cant be assed to fix that.

3. Fixed.

4. Fixed.

5. Boxes have been raised and some have been rotated.

6. Well... I fixed the railing, and did something to help the texture transition... It looks better now.

7. Fixed.

8. Fixed.

9. Fixed.

10. Fixed.

11. Fixed.

12. I couldnt think of anything either...

13. Fixed.

14. Oh FFS I forgot to put in the frame! Oh well, the lightings been made cooler (red pointing up like you suggested)

15. Fixed.

16. Well, I did do something there... You'll see...

17. No more death machines... theres some batteries and satchels there now.

18. Youd be surprised...

19. Originally that was another room under there, but I thought a reflection would look better.

20. There was no support because it interfered with the reflective floor. It has been fixed... in a way.

Compiling now! :smile:

Overall you just need to add depth to your walls - supports, pillars, curves, recesses, fixtures/fittings... it all feels a little too boxy currently.

Adding "lips" to edges as well, such as where the train rail is recessed in that "trench" - little details like adding hazard lines on the edge, or even slight kinks in the shape of the trench walls will spice it up nicely. As Crono says, variation is your friend!

The download link isn't working!! I wan't to check out the map!!!