Heh, I love harrasing you guys about this

step#1 load google

step#2 look up a PDF for your board.

step#3.. read carefully

Oh, wait, is that the square four pin connector? If so that's for a P4 ... also, is that on your board or coming from your power suppy? Most all power supplies have them to support P4's. I wouldn't think that hookup would be on your board, that would be ineffieciet.

All an Athlon needs comes from the power connection through the motherboard. And the CPU fan being plugged into the board as well. Unless the 2500 has some insane power requirement it wont have extra connectors.

cause the board has the little clip (yea the 4 pin square one) but my PSU dosent.

I looked up the board you have. The power connector from the power supply goes there (If your powersupply doesn't have that please list your voltage and watts, you might need a more powerful powersupply).

right now its a 300Watt PSU with a very noisy fan, lol.

Hmm, well, If your power supply doesn't have the connection, hook everything else up and give it a spin (go into bios). If it doesn't boot, well, It would be safe to assume you need a newer powersupply (I'm pretty sure a 2.5 ghz (as well as the entire system) would run fine with 300watts. Most 1.5 ghz systems run fine on 200 - 230 :smile: )

It just depends on how much power overall your system will use, but there could be a chance that if you don't use that power connector (meaning your power supply could not be powerful enough, I doubt it, but there's a chance) you could lose power at some point, and that could potentially fry some stuff....so, you can run it without it, check all the power measurments in bios, make sure everything is running fine. if it is, then you should be good to go. Just be aware of it when you upgrade your video card, those things can really suck electricity. :smile:

well, right now everything is running fine, except for once again that noisy fan. My friend is getting a new PSU soon and will give me his. Its a 400watt with the 4 pin. But its generic so Im not sure of its worth. It came with a nice case for 50$ (can)

I just downloaded the PDF manual for your board. You don't need to plug it in if you don't have it...it even says so.

Secondly, you shouldn't use overabundant power supplies...didn't you say your parents are going to make you pay for things you use? that new 400 watt power supply would cost you quite a bit of money every month.

Lol I dont think they would go as far as the energy bill...

...

I hope.

windows 2000 upgrade is fine. Delete the partitions on the target disk, and boot from the upgrade CD. It asks you for the windows 98 CD, (and maybe CD key), then doesn't use anything from that CD and does a normal 2K install. I think :smile:

The reason why I said ew was because the file format in mostlikely the same as ME, since he just upgraded....ew lol

Got some pretty pictures to show ya lol.

Be weary I didnt shrink them for fears of A loosing detail, and B cause I was in a hurry and C cause im too damn lazzy w00t lol.

http://f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/guthrun@sbcglobal.net/lst?.dir=/Nick%27s+stuff/computer+pics&.order=&.view=l&.src=bc&.done=http%3a//f1.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/

tis scary seeing that pretty AGP slot empty :eek:

Orpheus said:
tis scary seeing that pretty AGP slot empty :eek:

lmao, I know what you mean...

Crono, some 2500+ Motherboards with the nForce 2 chipset do use the P4 power connector. Although I really wish they wouldn't say that on the boxes. "P4 ready" and have the other 50% of users ask if it works on Athlons.

Reformatting is your best choice when you get a new combination for hard drive and motherboard. Smooths any slight incompatabilities. There are a few ways around this, but if you can afford it, it's always that much better.

ok ok, but if you just change the ram and cpu, theres nothing to reinstall. When you change the motherboard, it has to reinstall everything.

I still could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that if you want to use dual channel mode, you use the two memory slots that are right next to eachother.

scary_jeff said:
I still could be wrong, but I am pretty sure that if you want to use dual channel mode, you use the two memory slots that are right next to eachother.

Thats what Im thinking

Yeah. I forgot to mention that earlier. WC your manual is more helpful then you think. The "P4" connector, which just has a seperate line to the powersupply I've come to realize, is just for that, power for the CPU, you don't need it obviously.

Also, your board is set to use up to PC2700 in all three slots, or 3200 in only two. It says that it can only support two 400mhz sticks at a time (obviously as jeff said the two next to each other).

Also, Gorb. If you have XP you usually don't have to format your harddrive (I didn't and I changed EVERYTHING in my computer, literally, except for the Hard drive of course), it's not like 2000 (as I said before 2000 becomes a bitch when it comes to configuration, it thinks something bad happened to it if the config. changes). But, Gorb, he's had a pretty nice motherboard the whole time. It looks like when it was originally built he either got the processor for cheap or free and had to find a board to use it with. Since AMD stuff is backwards compatable, it worked fine. So, no he doesn't have to re-format anything for this all to work. I suggest that if you ever get the time WC that you remove your partition and re-create it to be NTFS. Fat32 has some weird allocations.

Anyway, why are you talking to us? you have new ram and a faster CPU, go play all the crap you couldn't before lol.

Ok, I got Windows XP pro installed. (I said NO! to registering and didnt have to write it down to remember :biggrin: ) I found out that the noisy fan wasnt my PSU fan but my case fan, so I took that out.

But, Gorb, he's had a pretty nice motherboard the whole time. It looks like when it was originally built he either got the processor for cheap or free and had to find a board to use it with. Since AMD stuff is backwards compatable, it worked fine.

My computer used to be the one we had downstairs, but I inherited it after the monitor broke and my parents decided to get a better computer instead. Its original configuration was:

AMD Duron 800
Shuttle AK-12 mobo
128mb SDRAM 133
nVidia 32mb TNT/TNT2 AGP
10/100network card
56k modem
235Watt PowerMan PSU
8x4x32 Creative CD-RW

At the time, I had an old P2 400Mhz in my room with a 17" CRT flat screen monitor and my GeForce 4 video card. So the first thing I changed was the video card. Then in end of December (after X-mas) I bought my mobo and the first stick of 256 ram. Now I just bought the 2500+CPU and a second stick of 256 ram. Thus concludes the history of my computer :biggrin:

Oh, when I installed XP pro, I did the install thing, not the upgrade. So while it didnt reformat, it pretty much deleted all my stuff from the add/remove menu but I wanted to clean my drive anyways. After installing the basics, video card driver, directX, mobo drivers, burner drivers and disk keeper, I did a defrag with disk keeper.

I had this huge yellow chuck AKA paging file. wtf mate? lol I have no idea what that is.

Second, my HDD shrunk. I did the NTFS switch, but I seem to have lost 2 gigs of free space. if I highlight all the folders and files on the C: drive, it registers at about 2 Gigs. but if I goto propreties for the C: driver, it says there are 4 Gigs used up? Any ideas?

Oo, and since I got the upgrade, there is a difference playing GTA3, it dosent lag. I can play Tron 2.0, Breed runs better, still not the best but meh, lol. Cant play Deus Ex 2 though (from the help file) GeForce MX series not supported them dirty bumbs lol.

Actually it's usually slot 1 and slot 3 for dual channel. Make sure you read the board instructions.

Now I just bought the 2500+CPU

i got that elsewell at christmas,it rocks! :biggrin:

I havent read the online PDF, but if they are the same as the printed manual, it wont tell me much.

Oh, when I installed XP pro, I did the install thing, not the upgrade. So while it didnt reformat, it pretty much deleted all my stuff from the add/remove menu but I wanted to clean my drive anyways.

.... If you didn't do an upgrade install, why didn't you delete the partition first so everything would be NTFS from the get go?

I had this huge yellow chuck AKA paging file. wtf mate? lol I have no idea what that is.

Some programs VMM page log probably.

Second, my HDD shrunk. I did the NTFS switch, but I seem to have lost 2 gigs of free space. if I highlight all the folders and files on the C: drive, it registers at about 2 Gigs. but if I goto propreties for the C: driver, it says there are 4 Gigs used up? Any ideas?

Yes, XP does that for some reason. Also, it uses a bit of system files not included in the partition (thus your HD shrinking in size, don't worry it's there, but it's being used).

Oo, and since I got the upgrade, there is a difference playing GTA3, it dosent lag. I can play Tron 2.0, Breed runs better, still not the best but meh, lol.

Good.

Cant play Deus Ex 2 though (from the help file) GeForce MX series not supported them dirty bumbs lol.

Don't bother, it blows ass.

I havent read the online PDF, but if they are the same as the printed manual, it wont tell me much.

If they are the same, your manual is fine. I read the online pdf and it tells you everything you need to know.

So, if they aren't the same, I suggest printing out the online one and keeping it with you driver stuff and things like that.

Make sure you read the board instructions.

obviously. lol :smile:

my mistake, its using 4 gigs. lol. my 18.6gig drive just became a 14 :biggrin: w00t, lol. No matter, I never really managed to fill it up. My friend already has his 80gig full to the brim, how he does that, I still dont know...

I know how.

I have two 60 gig drives and I have a total of maybe 10 gigs free.
(My Games directory, as in all my installed games, is 43 gigs)

"questionable files" aint it :biggrin:

Um ...

CONVERSATION OVER!!

:biggrin:
(If I really like the ... item ... I buy it, I swear lol)

lmao... so how 'bout them yankees?

They're doing good ... they're downloading at 350 k/s wink wink

lol, Anyway.

silly man...