$ Paid Urgent Request

$ Paid Urgent Request

Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 2:41pm
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Hello,

My name is Rick Jones. I am the creator of Smash Champ.

I have an urgent request that I am willing to pay for. I need somebody who can export all of the “Summoner’s Rift” level models from League of Legends for the Source Engine and then recreate the entirety of Summoner’s Rift in Hammer for use in SFM. If you are interested in this gig please let me know asap as finding somebody who can do this is my main priority today.

pikaparody@gmail.com
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 6:58pm
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This sounds illegal. :stirring:
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 7:10pm
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G4MER

This is a very common response from model rippers. You have nothing to worry about. I have been working for two years in the professional video game entertainment industry. There are so many legal things I could explain right now but I think it would be a waste of my time. From my experience talking with scared model rippers who know little about the law because they are not in the professional industry, nothing I say will be believed. I have gotten into too many arguments with people who don’t know what they are talking about and make no effort to research it for themselves.

To make this short just in case you are seriously considering this and don’t fit that description.

(1) Machinima and Riot have a working relationship with defined rules of conduct and this fits within the rules, (2) you will not be credited if you do not want to be so nobody will know about this, (3) Machinima would be the party in any lawsuit, not you – but there will never be a lawsuit because Riot wants stuff like this to be made (for example, how Bungie responded to Red VS Blue).

So do you think you could do this?

What's the price?
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Sat Oct 12th 2013 at 12:30am
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Posted 2013-10-12 12:30am
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I have no clue how to rip models... the Law I know.. I am a Texas Peace Officer.

Sorry I am of no assistance in this manner. :flail:
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Sat Oct 12th 2013 at 2:04am
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Posted 2013-10-12 2:04am
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I have no doubt then that you know the law, but if you think there are any legal issues related to the use of ripped video game models in our machinimation productions, you are very wrong. We have been doing it for years and have never, ever had a problem. In fact, the reward is always good relationships with each of these game companies.

Do you have any idea where I might go to find the help I need? :-)
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Sat Oct 12th 2013 at 1:01pm
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It looks like I have found somebody on another forum. Thanks everybody for your time.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Sun Oct 13th 2013 at 5:02pm
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Was not challenging your right to what ever it is you do, have done, etc. Just sounds illegal to me. If you say its good to go, then I will leave it at that. Morally though it rubs me the wrong way. People put a lot of hard work into what they do just to have it ripped and used as if it were your own. So I guess that is the only problem I have with that.

Glad you found someone to do it for you.. post your web page or project here when done so we can see what you have been up to and doing.

Oh and one last thing...

CHANCY!
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Mon Oct 14th 2013 at 5:26pm
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Posted 2013-10-14 5:26pm
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I'll pay $100 to the person who can complete this project within 24 hours of this post.

Email me.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Tue Oct 15th 2013 at 2:20pm
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What I am hearing is that $400 is a better place to begin negotiation. Is that better?
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Tue Oct 15th 2013 at 4:09pm
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My wife says she can do it.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Tue Oct 15th 2013 at 4:32pm
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Really? You can Skype me Kedric Jones (from Chicago) or email me at pikaparody @ Gmail . com. I can give my personal phone number but I won't post it on here. :-)
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Wed Oct 16th 2013 at 10:13pm
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Okay after some research and trying, I don't think it is possible. The World models are kept server side not client side, giving you no access to the mdl files. Still looking at other ways or ideas to perform the task, but its not looking favorable.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 4:05am
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Posted 2013-10-17 4:05am
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Wow, that is the first time I have heard that.

Another guy who looked into it said the data was there in the binaries (he could point at the data in an hexadecimal editor) so it can be extracted. He didn't know how to work with that though.

I also know that many of the objects (like the towers) have been ripped.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 1:15pm
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She was able to extract 400+ textures, but no models.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 3:56pm
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G4MER said:
She was able to extract 400+ textures, but no models.
UPDATE: SUCCESS! We have a few extracted. Working on getting the Skins on the models we have extracted now.

You want these saved in what format for what game? And What is your plan for these models?
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 4:52pm
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G4MER,

Seriously? Let's connect through email or Skype or something. The models are going to be used in a SFM project. I was told they would need to be compiled in SFM.

Let me ask my director, he probably knows more.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 4:53pm
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By the way, I don't think we need any characters or anything - just the background of Summoner's Rift.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by smashingveteran on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 9:29pm
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G4MER said:
G4MER said:
She was able to extract 400+ textures, but no models.
UPDATE: SUCCESS! We have a few extracted. Working on getting the Skins on the models we have extracted now.

You want these saved in what format for what game? And What is your plan for these models?
Hi, I'm the animator/director for this project. Everything is going into the Source engine to be used in SFM. I hope you know how to use Hammer. We have someone who already has extracted the shopkeeper and minions. We already have character models handled. As of right now, we are just looking for a seamless recreation of Summoner's Rift in the source engine.

Also, this is all for an animated series. It is legal and actually encouraged by developers/publishers! Not only are we putting a helluva lot of effort into producing this, but it's great endorsement for the game. Manipulation of game engines has been popular for around a decade now. And for me, personally, the project goes on my resume.

Add me on Skype too. SSBVET
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 18th 2013 at 8:23pm
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This is the first one she has completed.

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Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Fri Oct 18th 2013 at 8:44pm
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Posted 2013-10-18 8:44pm
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Wow!

I noticed you don't seem interested in talking through Skype or email.

Having Summoner's Rift gives us an advantage over the other SFM animators doing LoL series. How can we make sure these files don't get shared?

Also, how many hours of work do you think this will take? Is $400 a fair payment you think?
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 18th 2013 at 9:35pm
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Each model has to be skinned independently.. and there are quite a bit of them. Only models we have not seen are the plants and trees, but the wife is pretty sure she can build those herself. Not sure how long, we both have jobs and it is done in her spare time.

As for having sole rights to these for SFM, not problem there... I may use a couple here or there in CS:GO maps but not in recreating a whole LoL map or level.

As for my use in Hammer.. I am alright. I do have a bio/interview #6 on here. You can also see my current workshop on Steam... http://steamcommunity.com/id/iG4MER/myworkshopfiles/

Not much there yet, as most of my stuff was on this site, but due to a disagreement I had in the past with the lack of admining the site ( one particulars member - Orphus ) I removed all of it... but I am and will always be a supporter of this community and site.

As for Skype, I don't use it... I have it because my kids use it, but I really have no need for it. As for e-mail.. I will contact you soon enough, wanted to be sure it could be done.

As for payment, I will allow my wife to work that out with you.. since she will be doing the majority of the work. I think also giving her a title spot in your credits would do nicely.

Nice that you get to benefit on your resume from her work. :thumbsup:
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 18th 2013 at 9:37pm
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By the way, this says what your doing is illegal.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse

So we are backing out. Good luck. Don't get caught. Oh and I have screen capped this thread and sent it to Riot Games for their review and asked if this is wanted and granted by them as you have said in your previous post..
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Tue Oct 22nd 2013 at 6:31pm
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Posted 2013-10-22 6:31pm
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G4MER,

Riot is already fully aware that Machinima has broken most of the terms of use (in reference to use of in game assets/etc) and they have reached out to us to tell us it was okay. They told us the only thing they do not want us to do is to invent “lore.”

If you are still uncomfortable, I can sign some sort of confidentiality contract with you and your identity would remain completely secret. We would set it up where you would be completely untraceable. Though, I really think that would be unnecessary – I would do it if you desired so.
Re: $ Paid Urgent Request Posted by SmashBits on Wed Oct 23rd 2013 at 9:08pm
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Posted 2013-10-23 9:08pm
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Would some sort of evidence for the interaction between Riot and Machinima be helpful here or are you no longer interested in this project?