Philosophizers

kinda funny. i once speculated with my teacher about particle placement and digitization.. i mean taking, let's say, a human being and recording it's being digitally.. then storing it just like any other data. (you know, so you could transport and reconstruct it elsewhere.)

of course, someone else jumped in, inquiring about the fact that there would then be two beings. one has to die. and that hit me real hard.. i had to think about it. when i think of philosphy's role in science, i think of that time.

Gollum said:
But would it BE the same person? Or would the
conscious experience of the original person have ended, and a new
person come into being -- albeit one who remembered all the experiences of the old person, and was convinced that he was this person?

How about that for a headf**k? :biggrin:

If he had all the same memories, looked completely the same and was
convinced that he was this person ... then I would consider him to be
the same person. Even if technically he wasn't.

But damn yes, that does f**k with my head.

FatStrings said:
our world however has kicked philosophy in the arse and decided to answer everything with the scientific method

As a scientist, it's kind of sad to realize how little most people know of my discipline. People generally make one of two mistakes: They either think science is infallible, or believe it is evil.

Richard Feynman said that science is the art of separating fact from fiction. We have gotten very good at it, but but you must be able to make a measurement in order for science to provide any insight. A hypothesis without mathematical proof or experimental evidence IS philosophy.

The first Scientists were called "Natural Philosophers" for good reason. They were interested in the philosophy of the natural world just like those that came before. The key thing that set the likes of Robert Boyle apart from Aristotle was that the former subjected his philosophies to physical tests.

i guess i was a little extreme in this, but what i was trying to say is
that people are coming more and more to want physical/scientific proof
before they believe anything

A philosopher is someone who doesn't have a real job so they tell people how to live their lives.

Wait a minute. I don't have a real job.

Two words: food and sex

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Better to be in denial than to be human.

Bill Gates understands binary: his company is number one, and his customers are all zeros.

ROFL

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