Leak problem

I am experiencing something very strange when trying to compile my map. When the map contains no point-based entities, it all works fine, but as soon as I insert info_player_start or light_environment, a leak occurs. I have never seen anything like this before. If anyone has experienced anything like this, I would appreciate your help and comments. Thank you.

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Post you log.

Seems to me that you had the problem before, but since you had no entities, the map had no origin to use a basis for.

I mean, the leak always reports the closest entity to the leak. If you have no ents, how can it?

Besides, the tools may not consider it a map before it has them.

shrugs

Leaks are not caused by entities. Leaks are leaks.

I am betting the error exists beforehand, as well as after you place a player start.

There are s s**t load of suggestions for locating leaks throughout this site. Search them out, after you determine that I am correct. Search them out, even if I am incorrect as well.

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Yeah, the leak was there but it wasnt actually being checked for before.

If you're map is fairly large, i'd say section pieces off (like room by room, or groups of rooms) into VisGroups, and then make another group called Dividers or something. It made making my 8k brush map very easy to work with. Make the Dividers group all basic brushes that fill the doorways; you can then test out each room for leaks (assuming the leaks arent actually in the doors).

If you dont know how to do any of what i just said, just ask.

The only thing I can think of is either:

A) The leak was always there, you just never knew because the player start error came up first (or something else, but it was there all a long)

B) The entities you're placing are pushed into world brushes. Entities outside the outer hull of a map is a leak.

My suggestion(s):
If you have entities outside the hull (even by a little bit) make sure they're all in the map. In either case, compile then load up the point file and fix the leak(s).
Check this tutorial for more help.

Also, be aware that the pointfile way of finding leaks in Hammer 4 (Source engine) is more "fool proof".

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