WARNING: node with unbounded volume?

when i compile my map, the window gets flooded with the text "WARNING: node with unbounded volume", what can i do to correct this...and what does it mean?

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\srdjant\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\srdjant\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\srdjant\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\kz_wtf"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Dec 15 2004)
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materialPath: c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\srdjant\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Loading C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\srdjant\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\kz_wtf.vmf
Brush 3230, Side 6: duplicate plane
Brush 3230, Side 9: duplicate plane
Brush 3230, Side 10: duplicate plane
Brush 3230, Side 13: duplicate plane
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Brush 3720, Side 24: duplicate plane
Brush 3720, Side 25: duplicate plane
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Detected multiplayer map, building linux dedicated server data
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
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Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (0)
writing C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\srdjant\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\kz_wtf.prt...done (0)
Creating default cubemaps for env_cubemap using skybox sky_wasteland02...
Run buildcubemaps in the engine to get the correct cube maps.
Finding displacement neighbors...
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (1) (144455 bytes)
Building Physics collision data...
done (0) (144455 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Writing C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\srdjant\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\kz_wtf.bsp
9 seconds elapsed
Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 48
Memory leak: mempool blocks left in memory: 1

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files\Valve\Steam\SteamApps\srdjant\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\kz_wtf.bsp" "c:\program files\valve\steam\steamapps\srdjant\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\kz_wtf.bsp"

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Start by going to brush numbers 3230 and 3720 (CTRL+SHIFT+G, I think?) and see what's going on with them...

Run a "check for problems" Alt+P that could accutally fix it for you.

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<br style="color: white;">Okay, i know this post is two years old now but I am having the exact problem and i have done the two steps which have been given above and I still have no luck.<br style="color: white;"><br style="color: white;">here is what it says when i try to run my map:

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk\bin\vbsp.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname"

Valve Software - vbsp.exe (Aug 4 2006)
2 threads
materialPath: c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike\materials
Loading C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.vmf
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
ProcessBlock_Thread: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (0)
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**** leaked ****
Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 78 detail faces...done (0)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
HashVec: point outside valid range

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk\bin\vvis.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname"

Valve Software - vvis.exe (March 15 2007)
2 threads
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.bsp
reading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\namesourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.prt
LoadPortals: couldn't read c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.prt

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk\bin\vrad.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike" "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname"

Valve Software - vrad.exe SSE (May 22 2006)
----- Radiosity Simulator ----
2 threads
[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[1 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.bsp
No vis information, direct lighting only.
10319 faces
3 degenerate faces
1410521 square feet [203115040.00 square inches]
0 displacements
0 square feet [0.00 square inches]
0 direct lights
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.0494 sec>
FinalLightFace: 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10 (1)
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0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
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models 4/1024 192/49152 ( 0.4%)
brushes 1859/8192 22308/98304 (22.7%)
brushsides 11376/65536 91008/524288 (17.4%)
planes 3222/65536 64440/1310720 ( 4.9%)
vertexes 15624/65536 187488/786432 (23.8%)
nodes 5219/65536 167008/2097152 ( 8.0%)
texinfos 648/12288 46656/884736 ( 5.3%)
texdata 41/2048 1312/65536 ( 2.0%)
dispinfos 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
disp_verts 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
disp_tris 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
disp_lmsamples 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
faces 10319/65536 577864/3670016 (15.7%)
hdr faces 0/65536 0/3670016 ( 0.0%)
origfaces 5630/65536 315280/3670016 ( 8.6%)
leaves 5224/65536 167168/2097152 ( 8.0%)
leaffaces 12579/65536 25158/131072 (19.2%)
leafbrushes 4120/65536 8240/131072 ( 6.3%)
areas 2/256 16/2048 ( 0.8%)
surfedges 73323/512000 293292/2048000 (14.3%)
edges 43804/256000 175216/1024000 (17.1%)
LDR worldlights 0/8192 0/720896 ( 0.0%)
HDR worldlights 0/8192 0/720896 ( 0.0%)
waterstrips 965/32768 9650/327680 ( 2.9%)
waterverts 0/65536 0/786432 ( 0.0%)
waterindices 17508/65536 35016/131072 (26.7%)
cubemapsamples 0/1024 0/16384 ( 0.0%)
overlays 0/512 0/180224 ( 0.0%)
LDR lightdata [variable] 1725096/0 ( 0.0%)
HDR lightdata [variable] 0/0 ( 0.0%)
visdata [variable] 0/16777216 ( 0.0%)
entdata [variable] 2886/393216 ( 0.7%)
LDR leaf ambient 5224/65536 125376/1572864 ( 8.0%)
HDR leaf ambient 0/65536 0/1572864 ( 0.0%)
occluders 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
occluder polygons 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
occluder vert ind 0/0 0/0 ( 0.0%)
detail props [variable] 1/12 ( 8.3%)
static props [variable] 1/6038 ( 0.0%)
pakfile [variable] 21825/0 ( 0.0%)

Level flags = 0

Win32 Specific Data:
physics [variable] 659013/4194304 (15.7%)

Total Win32 BSP file data space used: 4721510 bytes

Total triangle count: 30170
Writing c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.bsp
7 seconds elapsed

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "C:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\name\sourcesdk_content\cstrike\mapsrc\mapname.bsp" "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike\maps\mapname.bsp"

** Executing...
** Command: "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\hl2.exe"
** Parameters: -game "c:\program files\steam\steamapps\name\counter-strike source\cstrike" +net_graph 3. +map "mapname"

I've never actually encountered this error myself, but I may be able to point you in the right direction. Your problem isn't exactly the same as the OP's, you've got the node problem, but you've also got a leak on your map.

I would start by trying to track down the leak, closing that may actually help with the problem.

When a node has an unbound volume, its volume is infinite, causing the compiler to get confused and throw the error up. It seems to be caused by manipulating the vertices of a brush. The fact you have a leak as well may mean that you moved a vert on one of your brushes that caused both errors, allowing the game world to leak into the void.

The easiest way to trouble shoot it I think would be to find the leak, and fix that first, then recompile. If the error is still there, take a look at any brushes that you changed, and you should eventually be able to track it down.

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How do I track this?

I have had this problem twice before but i just delete a few objects (walls) and it was fine. I have tried deleting walls this time around and I still encounter this problem. I really have no idea what to do. I don't want to delete the whole map, or the part of the map of which i believe is wrong because that is hours of work i had spent creating. If i sent you the map, would it be possible for you to fix for me?

If so please contact me back with an email address I can contact you on. Or even better if you have an Xfire account or Ventrilo that would be fine as well.

Thanks alot!

Well, I'd be willing to give it a look over; I may be overindulgent, but give me at least two days to find the time, and if no one else gets back with you on it, I'll send you whatever I was able to do. e-mail it to me at: lancon at suddenlink dot net. Title it something like "compiler problem" so I'll recognize it.

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Hahaha, Riven is on the case again!

Best off leaving me out of this this, v1be, I'm a total newbie myself! Just look at my post about texturing a tunnel, and you'll see what I mean! Next time, if you upload the map to Rapidshare or Megaupload or something similar, people can just download it and take a look without you having to fire emails off. You can pass me a copy to ritchie_brier-at-yahoo-co-uk, not promising anythign though, lol!

Heh, only as of late.

I finally felt that I am confident enough to involve myself in the Snarkpit forums, so, you could say that I'm spending more time helping others when I can. Although, I'm pretty reluctant to do so because I'm a perfectionist, so don't expect me to jump on every issue.

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Yeah, I know the feeling. I jump in and out the C4DCafe quite often. If I'm working on a project, I get kinda' tunnel visioned. I'll probably be kicking around here until I get this assignment done.

It seems kinda' dead though, as do a lot of the mod forums for HL2 I've been to.

Hello again,

So sorry to get back to everyone so late, just was really busy :razz: . Anyways yeah I still have not fixed the problem but I will send the file out, but before so... what file do I send you, the the normal sdk one, if not let me know asap. : )

to find a leak;

map>load pointfile

loads a red line into hammer, starting at a random entity, and ending outside the map. follow the line and you'll see where it escapes, or leaks, from your level.

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I have tried to do this, but my problem is that i don't have a .lin file and I have no idea how to create one.

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what file do I send you?

Easiest way v1be, just save the map to your desktop, and send the VSP file, that's all. I'm gonna' guess that you haven't used any custom models or textures, so it should work okay.

ah, there's no .lin file because vbsp gave up before it could write one.

the unbound volume is often caused by bad brushwork that will show up when you check the map for problems (ctrl+p)

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I have done ALT + P and fixed the problems except one.... which is the player start, but I have already added ct and t spawns which have worked before. After everyday I work on my map i test it out to look for any glitches or anything wrong with it, but now it just doesn't work. I have had the "WARNING: node with unbound volume" error twice before and I have gotten rid of it by deleting a couple walls, and it went away. But now I can't seem to find the wall which is preventing me to play. I have tried almost everything now and still nothing works, I really need someone trust worthy to take a look at my map for me asap, so I can get this completed. I would really appreciate it if someone could do this for me that had quite a bit of experience. THANKS!!!

use cordon compiles and the process of elimination to find the cause of your error.

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Well, I'm still available; I haven't seen any e-mails mentioning anything about compiling soo....

Send it to the e-mail I have posted in my first comment; I'm still willing to look it over.

And yes, send the .vmf file (the one you save and open from Hammer).

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