enemies dont move

evry time i have enimies in my map, the'll rotate to where they look at
me then shoot, untill i die, but will not move no matter where i go

Two possibilities:

1. You placed them too close to the ground brush, so they're stuck into
the floor. This is less likely, since I assume you know what
you're doing when you map.

2. You didn't place any info_node in your map. Without these entities, the NPC's don't know how to navigate the map.

Read up on these in the tutorials if you are not familiar with them.

well your first one i know for sure is not the problem but, im gonna look up info_node...never heard of it

-Thanks

Here is a tutorial from TWHL. It was written for HL1, but nothing
has changed in regards to info_node. I hope you'll find it
helpful.

http://twhl.co.za/tutorial.php?id=31

Yes, still place info_nodes allong corners and below and above any stair. No real need to place them at random places on an wide open floor, just near some cover etc.

could you just generate a navigation mesh instead of using info_nodes? i dont have any maps with npcs since Im just goofing with maps for CS:S but try this...

Load up your map, go to the console and type 'sv_cheats 1' and 'nav_edit 1' then type 'nav_generate' to have the game build a navigation mesh for you. this works for bots on CS:S maps and you never have to put any info_nodes down.

One thing you want to look for... when you run 'nav_generate' in the console it will build a navigation mesh starting at some point in your map. in counter-strike it seems to always begin generating at a terrorist spawn point and will end where ever there are doors (it sees them as walls). Any area that isnt openenly connected to where it begins generation will not have a mesh created for it. But, if you go to that area and while using 'nav_edit 1' you can type 'nav_mark_walkable' and when you run 'nav_Generate' it will also start building the navigation mesh from all those nav_mark_walkable spots. Then you just have to connect the meshes from each sides of the doors to each other... (and tweek your mesh to make npcs move smarter, faster and reduce lag created by npcs)

Again, this is all from working with CS:S bots.. may not work at all for HL2 npcs

As far as info_nodes though, I was under the assumption that each info_node had to be able to see the next node.

each info_node had to be able to see the next node.

That would be correct. Disconnected nodes don't have any
purpose. And even large open areas benefit from info_nodes.
The NPC's navigate the area much more efficiently and quickly if the
area is equipped with info_nodes.

do the info_nodes have to be identified/ labeled somehow to the bots?

example: there are 2 settings in the properties name and node id.

also, i think the maximum distance was 256 units center to center, at least thats what i though i read from valves help guide.

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the only stupid question is the one not asked.

but dont press your luck.

You don't need to name the info_nodes for them to work, unless you have specific nodes for specific groups of NPC's.

I am not aware of any distance limitation for info_nodes, but I could be mistaken.

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UberDingo: not completely correct, if you have a difficult map place the nodes where the bots DON'T go like on boxes and roofs

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I'm pretty sure the bots completely ignore info_nodes. Theyre for hostages.

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wil5on: nope hostages and bots use them :biggrin: as extra reference

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