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                        Posted by Crono on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 4:20am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I strongly doubt anyone has purchased a CPU for their home computer which has little support and costs $1000 (at the moment)
In about two years though, these will be very nicely priced and readily available :smile:
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Myrk- on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 9:30am
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        LOL, more like 2 months...
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by SuperCobra on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 12:07pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        Its not single core! Its dual core!
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by satchmo on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 3:36pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        I am pretty darn sure that it's single-core.  There are already many dual-core processors announced, but this is the exception.
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Myrk- on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 6:57pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        Just cus' its 64 bit, doesn't make it dual :razz:
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Crono on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 9:11pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        It's single core. The X2 is dual core out of the AMD arena. (Which seems to be cheaper then the FX51/53/55)
Two months my ass. The FX-55 is still in the seven to eight hundred dollar range.
I don't know what YOU consider reasonbly priced, but for me it'd have to be in the $60-$150 range.
By the way, the 51, 53, and 55 FX chips are all still sold. I believe the only differences is the amount of registers in each model.
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Dred_furst on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 9:19pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
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                        the X2 looks absolubtly awesome, i hope they come with X3, X4 ect... cos dual core's are the way to go!
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Crono on 
    Tue Jun 28th 2005 at 9:31pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        No, actually a new architecture would be the way to go. But, way to go AMD for prolonging this ancient POS's lifespan.
The Cell stuff looks like a viable replacement. It just needs to be easier to program on a hardware level (x86 is rather simplistic in comparison as I've heard).
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by rival on 
    Thu Jul 7th 2005 at 8:32pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        correct me if im wrong but arent there not many programs that can fully take advantage of the 64-bit? or does the processor work at that level anyway?
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Myrk- on 
    Thu Jul 7th 2005 at 9:45pm
                     
                    
                 
                
            
            
                
    
                    
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                        As far as I know there are next to no games that use it (maybe 1 or 2), and only a beta of Windows, but I think thats being released properly soon.
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
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    Fri Jul 8th 2005 at 12:05am
                     
                    
                        
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                        The 64 line from AMD is made to optimize 32-bit applications. They run 64-bit applications normally. As in, 32-bit applications run faster. This is on a hardware level, when regarding the x64-windows that's out, it's a bad idea to use on AMD 64 chips, because, it emulates everything on a software level (SLOW!), meaning all the 32-bit stuff will NEVER run as fast as it would normally on a 32-bit machine, most of the slow down is not noticeable, you have to look at numbers which are unseen to people(cylces, etc). (In other words, x64-Windows will run slower and NOT worth the time.)
There's only one game out right now that "utilizes" the 64-bit operation and that's Far Cry in conjunction with the 64-bit patch available from AMD. To be honest, most of the advancements are just graphical. The newer recommended requirements recommend something like a 6800 to run at decent detail.
Now if you're talking about NON-x86-64 (Intel/HP Itanium for example), that's a completely different situation. Those things don't run 32-bit applications at all most of the time. Most of the time they're running some version of Unix, since there are flavors of Unix for all architectures.
                                            
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
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    Fri Jul 8th 2005 at 12:12am
                     
                    
                        
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                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by rival on 
    Fri Jul 8th 2005 at 11:58pm
                     
                    
                        
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                        i running on an atholon 64 temporarily and its only at 2 GHz but everything is sooooo fast. ive use css on a 3.4GHz it takes about 4 seconds on the  "preparing to play css" then about 4 sec on the acutally loading screen but this 64 spend the same time on the preparing window then goes black for about half a second then bam, css is booted up. i definetly notice a defference game-wise
                                    
             
        
            
            
                                     
                                
                    
                        Re: Athlon 64 FX-57
                        Posted by Myrk- on 
    Sat Jul 9th 2005 at 12:07am
                     
                    
                        
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