svc_bad

A map that i made has svc_bad errors in it, so i cut back on the breakables and so on, but it still isn't working, even though i have cut back to like 10 entities that spawn models, any help?

This is usually a memory problem. This error is usually caused by too many entitys that create models - like gib shooters, breakables and pushables. a solution.....Cut back on these
also compiling with -onlyents flag and having changed the geometry of the map can cause problems . Also the SVC problem can happen because of various combinations of entities that are on the map together, often a common cause of SVC bad is a bad compile where a brush based entity hasn't been compiled properly, so this can even be caused by a brush based entity with an invalid shape.
Good luck!

post your compile log.

i am betting its tools.

Thanks for your help, this is my log file.

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: "E:\\Program Files\\worldcraft\\ZHLT\\hlcsg.exe"-wadinclude camo.wad -wadinclude Opfor.wad -wadinclude halflife.wad -wadinclude xeno.wad -estimate E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.map

-= Current hlcsg Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ on ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[camo.wad]
[Opfor.wad]
[halflife.wad]
[xeno.wad]

entering E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.map
CreateBrush:
(27.72 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.02 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(11.20 seconds)
Using WAD File: \\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\decals.wad
Embedding textures from WAD File [\\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\halflife.wad] into BSP
Using WAD File: \\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\op4ctf.wad
Embedding textures from WAD File [\\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\opfor.wad] into BSP
Embedding textures from WAD File [\\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\xeno.wad] into BSP
Embedding textures from WAD File [\\program files\\half-life\\gearbox\\camo.wad] into BSP
added 16 additional animating textures.
Texture usage is at 0.85 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
45.61 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----



hlbsp v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: "E:\\Program Files\\worldcraft\\ZHLT\\hlbsp.exe"-estimate E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.map

-= Current hlbsp Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ on ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 240)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

BSP generation successful, writing portal file 'E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.prt'
24.48 seconds elapsed

----- END hlbsp -----



hlvis v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: "E:\\Program Files\\worldcraft\\ZHLT\\hlvis.exe"-estimate E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.map

-= Current hlvis Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ on ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

fast vis [ off ] [ off ]
full vis [ off ] [ off ]

792 portalleafs
2691 numportals
BasePortalVis:
(42.10 seconds)
LeafThread:
(2489.95 seconds)
average leafs visible: 147
g_visdatasize:35002 compressed from 78408
2534.09 seconds elapsed [42m 14s]

----- END hlvis -----



hlrad v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: "E:\\Program Files\\worldcraft\\ZHLT\\hlrad.exe"-extra -smooth 90 -estimate E:\\alex\\prefab\\mission2.map

-= Current hlrad Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
--------------------|---------------------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ on ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

vismatrix algorithm [ Original ] [ Original ]
oversampling (-extra)[ on ] [ off ]
bounces [ 1 ] [ 1 ]
ambient light [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ] [ 0.000 0.000 0.000 ]
maximum light [ 256.000 ] [ 256.000 ]
circus mode [ off ] [ off ]

smoothing threshold [ 90.000 ] [ 50.000 ]
direct threshold [ 25.000 ] [ 25.000 ]
direct light scale [ 2.000 ] [ 2.000 ]
coring threshold [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
patch interpolation [ on ] [ on ]

texscale [ on ] [ on ]
patch subdividing [ on ] [ on ]
chop value [ 64.000 ] [ 64.000 ]
texchop value [ 32.000 ] [ 32.000 ]

global fade [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global falloff [ 2 ] [ 2 ]
global light scale [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]
global gamma amount [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
global sky diffusion [ 1.000 ] [ 1.000 ]

opaque entities [ on ] [ on ]
sky lighting fix [ on ] [ on ]
incremental [ off ] [ off ]
dump [ off ] [ off ]

4626 faces
Create Patches : 27693 base patches
0 opaque faces
432096 square feet [62221924.00 square inches]
10 direct lights

BuildFacelights:
(669.56 seconds)
visibility matrix : 45.7 megs
BuildVisLeafs:
(1195.76 seconds)
MakeScales:
(755.62 seconds)
SwapTransfers:
(913.56 seconds)
Transfer Lists : 48553620 transfers
Indices : 13608360 bytes
Data : 194214480 bytes
GatherLight:
(668.29 seconds)
FinalLightFace:
(101.93 seconds)
4464.94 seconds elapsed [1h 14m 24s]

----- END hlrad -----

well doo doo..

unless i missed something, the log was no help.. all i noticed was, why are you wadincluding known wads into the bsp? this might overinflate it for no reason.. tis nothin to do with the error maybe, but i did read something about textures someplace in my google search.. but damned if i can remember.

have you tried running a test map without any ents?

i would remove anything custom.. leave the lights, and items and whatnot, but remove anything you have constructed.. might narrow it down, if the error goes away.

That looks mostly fine to me, except I don't think you need the -smooth 90 option when you run RAD. And like Orph said, don't -wadinclude those WADs, as they're huge! Try just a -nowadtextures option instead.

If you still have a problem:

Does the error still happen if you remove all your breakables? What about if you delete pretty much all the entities in your map? (make a backup of your RMF before you do this though, and don't bother with the VIS/RAD parts of your compile when you're messing around with the entities). If you're still having problems, try to find out what brushes might be causing it by deleting whole chunks of your map (and again, only run the CSG/BSP compilers). Bear in mind that it might be possible that VIS/RAD is causing this though :wink: Basically the message is to try to find your problem by reducing it down, but good luck :smile:

Is your E:/ drive your primary drive? If it's not try compiling off C:/. Hammer has problems working with more than one drive.

Alien_Sniper said:
Is your E:/ drive your primary drive? If it's not try compiling off C:/. Hammer has problems working with more than one drive.

what dave said is true, but after looking at the log again... it appears as if all the processes are on "E"

but if dave is correct, and you do have some stuff on another drive, you will eventually run into trouble.

best follow Dave's advice just in case.

for the record tho, i am unsure if this error is cause by multiple drives

seems to me the final line is missing.. the "copy blah,blah onto blah, cannot overwrite blah" nonsense..

that line would show us if your compiler is on a different drive than halflife.

I wasn't sure either, that's why I didn't mark it as an answer. Though it worth a mention though just in case. :smile:

I didn't find anything in english with a search either.

I will try getting rid all the entities and c what happens, thanks

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Not to be a necromancer, but you don't have a func_plat with a negative height value, do you? Negative values in the wrong places on func_plats can cause this, if I remember right.

Jesus, you're sick.

Oh necromancer I get it. :dodgy:

And you're right, func_plats with negative values do indeed cause this error. I learned the hard way.

Alien_Sniper said:
Jesus, you're sick.

Oh necromancer I get it. :dodgy:

And you're right, func_plats with negative values do indeed cause this error. I learned the hard way.

get your mind out of the negative gutter area dave :smile: