this city is getting worse

whippins (usage of a belt or a strap) are a punishment that is only truly effective in retrospect.. no child looks forward to getting one, but almost all that had them, were glad later that they did.

parents who raise a child whippinless, are worse IMO than children who were abused, that sounds odd, cause both are horrible ways to raise a child, but abused children tend to be introverted, and either crawl into a shell, or worse continue the tradition of abuse.

children who were never whipped, tend to be violent, and often abuse everyone they come into contact with.. so i feel this is worse of the two.

anyways.. i have seen children, and talked to adults who claim that their parents never laid a hand on them, and they seem alright for it.. so.......who knows shrugs

<DIV>Yeah, bring in some Maddox mentality. Or perhaps not that far... But still, the idea stands. http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html</DIV>
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<DIV>Strangely, I find myself agreeing with this guy on a lot of issues, even though he does seem somewhat of a bastard...</DIV>

Maddox is a frustrated young man. Read his first entries, his site started off as a journal of sorts.

I enjoy how people think they're outsmarting him, but there is so much sarcasm in his words they don't see how smart he actually is. He baits dumb people so well. God bless the internet.

I think beating a child (or anyone for that matter) is wrong. Parents often lack the patience required to teach a child discipline. For example if a child breaks a rule, he should be punished so he associates wrongdoing with punishment. But how to go about punishing the child? You could give him a smack on the wrists or whatever or you could give some sort of non-violent punishment such as grounding. Obviously smacking the kid is more easily enforced. However grounding can work just as well. Of course not every kid hates being grounded, and the trick is knowing your child well enough to know what he values, and taking it away when he's bad. Mwahaha!

JFry said:
I think beating a child (or anyone for that matter) is wrong. Parents often lack the patience required to teach a child discipline. For example if a child breaks a rule, he should be punished so he associates wrongdoing with punishment. But how to go about punishing the child? You could give him a smack on the wrists or whatever or you could give some sort of non-violent punishment such as grounding. Obviously smacking the kid is more easily enforced. However grounding can work just as well. Of course not every kid hates being grounded, and the trick is knowing your child well enough to know what he values, and taking it away when he's bad. Mwahaha!

there is an immense difference between beating a child, and whipping one, the problem lies with the parents who cannot distinguish between the two.

Beating:
You kick the kid in the kneecaps and then punch him in the face til his nose is broken. (crowbar optional) Anyone who does this should be sent to prison.

Whippin':
You smack the kid in the rear end.
Painful, but no lasting harm.

KingNic said:
Personally I prefer my 0.5 joule SOCOM BB gun :smile: .

My 0.7 joules taurus couse w00p ur ass :razz: but thats nothing to be special about, i am over gun replicas, especially after the incident where i nearly ot arrested :sad:

[edit] Giving a child a whippin for not doing as they should, i.e not doing thier homework,or doing some cleaning up once in a while, should result in a back hand round thier head or something similar, this happened to me as a child, i can honestly say, i turned out normal.

I was only whipped for bigger things like throwing rocks at cars or stealing. I never got whipped for not doing homework, and... I never do my homework. It probably would have helped, homework's not quite as painful and doesn't leave a bruise on my arse. But really, it depends on the kid and the parent, teaching discipline without the use of physical force would be preferable IMO, in case the kid starts becoming a damn ruffian, in which case feel free to whip him.

do they actually say "Ruffian" in Oregon,Hugh?

i haven't heard anyone use that title in years :biggrin:

ruffian.

Orpheus said:
do they actually say "Ruffian" in Oregon,Hugh?

i haven't heard anyone use that title in years :biggrin:

I wouldn't say it's widespread, no. :smile: I usually hear something along the lines of "juvenile delinquent" or "damn kids" which I suppose is less laughable than ruffian or dare I say... rapscallion?

Hugh said:

Orpheus said:
do they actually say "Ruffian" in Oregon,Hugh?

i haven't heard anyone use that title in years :biggrin:

I wouldn't say it's widespread, no. :smile: I usually hear something along the lines of "juvenile delinquent" or "damn kids" which I suppose is less laughable than ruffian or dare I say... rapscallion?

in arkansas its usually "heathen" tis pretty much the catchall term used for children who misbehave in public and whatnot... if they are really bad its "Heathen Bastard"